Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
06-20-2023, 03:51 AM
#3121
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: Captain
Posts: 830
He sounds like an idiot. My former regional had the same mentality and it was always an operational dumpster fire. They even brought in a hugely expensive consulting firm who showed them that a system similar to what we had at Delta (pre-optimizer) would save them millions per year: protecting reserves and only using them when absolutely needed. It’s a bit more nuanced in the details but it’s still amazing at how inept airline scheduling personnel apparently can be.
Pretty sure he was in CR up until this year. Do a quick search in DeltaNet and see what you come up with.
06-20-2023, 09:45 AM
#3122
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 1,230
There was a guy named David Watson who was in charge of crew resources years ago before 9-11 and bankruptcy, who said if it were up to him, there would only be 1 base, ATL, and every reserve would fly 75hrs every month. I asked him who was going to fly during a wx event if every reserve was already flying 75hrs. He said, “That’s what Green Slips are for.”
06-20-2023, 01:52 PM
#3123
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Joined APC: Feb 2022
Posts: 633
Hey y’all! I need some advice. I have a huge family event second half of August that I can’t miss (or I will die). I need some advice from folks who have seen trends and can predict the future.
1) Do you guys think I should hold out and bid on the July/August AE to be safe?
2) If so, do you think WB spots will still be open?
My fear is not bidding now and missing out then the senior folks bid on the next AE to avoid summer training. Not sure how this usually trends but I’d imagine Fall is a great time for training.
Thanks! I’ve reached out to AE planners via email but have had no luck with responses.
1) Do you guys think I should hold out and bid on the July/August AE to be safe?
2) If so, do you think WB spots will still be open?
My fear is not bidding now and missing out then the senior folks bid on the next AE to avoid summer training. Not sure how this usually trends but I’d imagine Fall is a great time for training.
Thanks! I’ve reached out to AE planners via email but have had no luck with responses.
06-20-2023, 02:00 PM
#3124
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 996
Hey y’all! I need some advice. I have a huge family event second half of August that I can’t miss (or I will die). I need some advice from folks who have seen trends and can predict the future.
1) Do you guys think I should hold out and bid on the July/August AE to be safe?
2) If so, do you think WB spots will still be open?
My fear is not bidding now and missing out then the senior folks bid on the next AE to avoid summer training. Not sure how this usually trends but I’d imagine Fall is a great time for training.
Thanks! I’ve reached out to AE planners via email but have had no luck with responses.
1) Do you guys think I should hold out and bid on the July/August AE to be safe?
2) If so, do you think WB spots will still be open?
My fear is not bidding now and missing out then the senior folks bid on the next AE to avoid summer training. Not sure how this usually trends but I’d imagine Fall is a great time for training.
Thanks! I’ve reached out to AE planners via email but have had no luck with responses.
06-20-2023, 02:03 PM
#3125
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: DAL FO
Posts: 2,167
Hey y’all! I need some advice. I have a huge family event second half of August that I can’t miss (or I will die). I need some advice from folks who have seen trends and can predict the future.
1) Do you guys think I should hold out and bid on the July/August AE to be safe?
2) If so, do you think WB spots will still be open?
My fear is not bidding now and missing out then the senior folks bid on the next AE to avoid summer training. Not sure how this usually trends but I’d imagine Fall is a great time for training.
Thanks! I’ve reached out to AE planners via email but have had no luck with responses.
1) Do you guys think I should hold out and bid on the July/August AE to be safe?
2) If so, do you think WB spots will still be open?
My fear is not bidding now and missing out then the senior folks bid on the next AE to avoid summer training. Not sure how this usually trends but I’d imagine Fall is a great time for training.
Thanks! I’ve reached out to AE planners via email but have had no luck with responses.
To answer your questions, given the importance of this event:
1) Yes
2) Depends on your seniority, but yes
06-20-2023, 02:11 PM
#3127
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Joined APC: Feb 2022
Posts: 633
Thanks for the response!
06-20-2023, 07:48 PM
#3128
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Joined APC: Nov 2020
Position: Enoch Powell Enthusiast
Posts: 2,276
As I age, the aphorism “When I was young, I prayed for justice. When I was old, I prayed for mercy” resonates strongly.
Absolutes are for teenagers, fools, and mid-wits.
If you’re on Delta’s property for 20 years under the current contract, there’s no reason you can’t retire comfortably…..unless you F it up. Who cares if some old farts work two more years?
Personally, I pity them, if they preserve because they must.
(Addressing the specific complaint “My captain will drop dead”. Who cares? You’re qualified and type rated in that scenario. There’s an excellent chance there are multiple qualified pilots in the back of the plane if you can’t handle that scenario on your lonesome.)
Last edited by DeltaboundRedux; 06-20-2023 at 08:08 PM.
06-20-2023, 10:31 PM
#3129
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Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 1,007
As a regional pilot, I used to say “My low wages and terrible work rules subsidize your over inflated salaries and feather bedding work rules.”
As I age, the aphorism “When I was young, I prayed for justice. When I was old, I prayed for mercy” resonates strongly.
Absolutes are for teenagers, fools, and mid-wits.
If you’re on Delta’s property for 20 years under the current contract, there’s no reason you can’t retire comfortably…..unless you F it up. Who cares if some old farts work two more years?
Personally, I pity them, if they preserve because they must.
(Addressing the specific complaint “My captain will drop dead”. Who cares? You’re qualified and type rated in that scenario. There’s an excellent chance there are multiple qualified pilots in the back of the plane if you can’t handle that scenario on your lonesome.)
As I age, the aphorism “When I was young, I prayed for justice. When I was old, I prayed for mercy” resonates strongly.
Absolutes are for teenagers, fools, and mid-wits.
If you’re on Delta’s property for 20 years under the current contract, there’s no reason you can’t retire comfortably…..unless you F it up. Who cares if some old farts work two more years?
Personally, I pity them, if they preserve because they must.
(Addressing the specific complaint “My captain will drop dead”. Who cares? You’re qualified and type rated in that scenario. There’s an excellent chance there are multiple qualified pilots in the back of the plane if you can’t handle that scenario on your lonesome.)
Yes yes I know that we only have power over our own mind not outside events, but I was always more of an Epicurean than a Stoic
Marcus still rocks but he can be a bit lecture-ey at times…..
06-21-2023, 02:09 AM
#3130
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: 717A
Posts: 2,937
(Raises hand) I care. The only reason those old farts have their seats is because their elders played by the rules. Now that it benefits them (and only now) they want those rules changed.
Yes yes I know that we only have power over our own mind not outside events, but I was always more of an Epicurean than a Stoic Marcus still rocks but he can be a bit lecture-ey at times…..
Yes yes I know that we only have power over our own mind not outside events, but I was always more of an Epicurean than a Stoic
Marcus still rocks but he can be a bit lecture-ey at times…..You lost me at Epicurean. Please remember you’re speaking to pilots.
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