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Old 06-16-2023, 01:09 PM
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This AE uses up training slots through early October. We need another one in Jul/Aug to fill up Oct and Nov. This AE only creates 30 days of new hire slots. The only unbid vacancies for new hires will be from the NYC exodus. I'd bet every other base fills up.
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Old 06-16-2023, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
and as an ER guy, 330s replacing the ERs is a good thing for the pilot group.
big picture yes, absolutely. But if it’s a choice between the 20 or so 339 deliveries we have planned being growth or replacing 7ERs, the growth would be better. Before this I was under the impression the 330/350s on order were to replace aircraft retired during Covid and growth. Now it looks like some will replace currently flying 7ERs
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Old 06-16-2023, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
The big question is are they really planning for smaller AEs or just buying time for age 67 ruling?
Yes, they have done both. It's amazing how accurate they can be with smaller, more frequent AEs.

/S/ In his first day on the job, RG figured out how to get inside the staffing OODA loop. He is a management genius /S/
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Old 06-16-2023, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
big picture yes, absolutely. But if it’s a choice between the 20 or so 339 deliveries we have planned being growth or replacing 7ERs, the growth would be better. Before this I was under the impression the 330/350s on order were to replace aircraft retired during Covid and growth. Now it looks like some will replace currently flying 7ERs
I didn’t really get that impression as ER is told to be flying for at least another 7+ years is what they said on the AE. Some of these comments seem more forward looking
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Old 06-16-2023, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
I didn’t really get that impression as ER is told to be flying for at least another 7+ years is what they said on the AE. Some of these comments seem more forward looking
I hope you are right, and it would not be the first time my reading comprehension was not perfect lol.
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Old 06-16-2023, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TNDeltaFlyboy
Is everyone going to just skip over the part where they acknowledge pilots have been asking for smaller, more frequent AEs and this is the first attempt at that? I’m no Company apologizer but let’s not say the sky is falling just yet when they appear to be at least, somewhat possibly, listening to us on this front.
Could you please paraphrase the rest of it? I skipped right to the openings. Maybe I should go back and read the actual words 🤷‍♂️

Well, maybe I should have read the details:

Based on feedback, many pilots have indicated a desire for more frequent, and smaller AEs. In response, we are posting a smaller June AE to evaluate our ability to manage and successfully execute a monthly AE process. We will communicate the results, and any strategy adjustments moving forward.”
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Old 06-16-2023, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TNDeltaFlyboy
2014 so I’m familiar. I see one of two things happening. They either keep doing small AEs or they start dropping hints that hiring will start to decrease.

2 year hiring freeze if 67 passes….
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Old 06-16-2023, 01:27 PM
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I thought we were due for a massive WB A AE.
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Old 06-16-2023, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
2 year hiring freeze if 67 passes….
With the scheduled deliveries, hiring is required 67 or not. We’re hiring 200/month with 400-500 scheduled retirements a year.
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Old 06-16-2023, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
2 year hiring freeze if 67 passes….
Yeah… very doubtful my guy. The airline is growing and how many 65+ actually going to be on the line flying and not milking out disability or just flat out retire
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