Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
12-08-2022, 05:49 PM
#283
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2015
Position: A350 Both
Posts: 7,292
So do you think it would have been reasonable to bump the 7ER to the top pay scale? Every Captain on the 350, 764, and 330 has at least 23 years seniority and the 7ER's go down to about 3 years so yeah it makes sense to me how it was done.
There is a huge difference in what it takes to hold each fleet.
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There is a huge difference in what it takes to hold each fleet.
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12-08-2022, 07:26 PM
#286
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 48
I don’t know about y’all but I for one am glad the AE thread turned into another AIP debate thread. Just can’t get enough of the same back and forth over AIP yeas and nays. Hopefully by this time next week every active thread in the Delta section will be alive with AIP discussion and debate!
But since this IS the AE thread… anyone care to speculate on how senior 765 AE starts going? I’m guessing it won’t be a new hire airplane anymore and that more people will bid it in anticipation of the new rates if we do have an AE or two before we have a signed TA.
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But since this IS the AE thread… anyone care to speculate on how senior 765 AE starts going? I’m guessing it won’t be a new hire airplane anymore and that more people will bid it in anticipation of the new rates if we do have an AE or two before we have a signed TA.
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12-08-2022, 07:54 PM
#287
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Joined APC: Sep 2020
Posts: 279
I don’t know about y’all but I for one am glad the AE thread turned into another AIP debate thread. Just can’t get enough of the same back and forth over AIP yeas and nays. Hopefully by this time next week every active thread in the Delta section will be alive with AIP discussion and debate!
But since this IS the AE thread… anyone care to speculate on how senior 765 AE starts going? I’m guessing it won’t be a new hire airplane anymore and that more people will bid it in anticipation of the new rates if we do have an AE or two before we have a signed TA.
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But since this IS the AE thread… anyone care to speculate on how senior 765 AE starts going? I’m guessing it won’t be a new hire airplane anymore and that more people will bid it in anticipation of the new rates if we do have an AE or two before we have a signed TA.
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Mixed bag. Trip mix on the 765 is limited. No growth. I could see ER guys bailing over due to the short 9 month seat lock.
12-08-2022, 10:27 PM
#288
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: A somewhere
Posts: 396
Pretty accurate. Except, I'm tired of the deadzoners thinking this is all about them. To keep this thread on track, I'm more inclined to bid the 330 over the 350 based on the AIP.
12-08-2022, 11:23 PM
#289
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Joined APC: Apr 2022
Position: DL320A
Posts: 241
My grandfather lost most of his pension at two airlines. My dad lost most or all of his pension at three. (My family is a bad omen into the 90s) I know it isn’t fair. But the childlessness of the out and out fits thrown over not reviving an effective retro A plan is staggering. Any of the dz group isn’t going to get what they were promised from the company in indoc. It sucks. Sorry. Ain’t my fault. I wish it was different.
But *******it, thats life. My grandfather was an idiot with retirement investments and my dad has been pretty sharp. I haven’t seen or heard of a pension and don’t even trust my military retirement as I watch it get chipped away. The intrepid government even is failing at funding stuff. It is what it is. I want cash money now to do with as I please as a free man.
The market is down now, maybe guys have to do something new for a couple years, go teach…if you have social skills. It isn’t like we all shouldn’t have far more saved than most of the dwindling middle class by then, even the dz guys. Sorry it isn’t equal to CA pay with GS.
Bottom line, do it! vote no! Give me a better concise argument worthy of a professional air line captain. Reacting in anger completely ruins all credibility to convince anyone else.
Cheers, fellas!
ETa. Isnt this an AE thread!
Last edited by Flyweight; 12-08-2022 at 11:28 PM. Reason: Lol
12-09-2022, 01:37 AM
#290
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 4,812
No, they are getting 18%. Transitioning to pay banding is always going to produce some who make out better than some others.
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