Timbo

The reason you 767ER guys can’t fly the 767-400 is because the -400 has different avionics displays, ie. flat screens vs round dials for airspeed and altitude.

Interesting historical tidbit; the 767-400 was originally a domestic only aircraft and it arrived without HF radios, as a replacement jet for our retiring L10-11 domestic aircraft. It originally flew from MCO, PBI, FLL, MIA to LGA most of the time, just like the L10-11s it was replacing. There were a few “incidents” when landing in LGA in the wet, snowy winter months and it was decided maybe it wasn’t a good idea to go there with that jet, so they installed the HF radios and started sending them to Europe.

RAH RAH REE

I mean, they could fly it, as long as they got the difference training and then did a few hours in the sim every year like United does. And that’s the major reason why we don’t, sim time. We have only 1, United has two. That’s it in the world.

If our sim burnt to the ground we would be in deep you know what

ColoradoAviator

Thank you! B-to-A as “Other” hadn’t crossed my mind.

321pilot

Exactly what I was wondering about...

crewdawg

Not sure why that would b a factor. In my short stint at AAL, I flew the 75/76, and one leg you'd have a jet with round dials and the next leg you might have a jet with flat screens. Maybe that was a short term solutions approved by the FAA. I really didn't think anything of it at the time

Meme In Command

Which 76's are older, the ER's or the -400's?

FangsF15

The 7ER and 400 is the only example of "differences" listed in 22.G. It's like 3 days in the sim - a "super-short course". I'm honestly not sure if the 320 to 330 "Cross Crew Qual" is considered a differences training for the purposes of 22.G, but I'd guess "no" (so 12 month freeze, not 9). The 330 to 350 RAD (Related Aircraft Differences) is a wild card. Even with the word "differences" in the name, it's still 11 training days. I'd comfortably guess that would be a 12 months freeze as an "all other".

22.G. was specifically changed to take the number of training days out of the equation (to prevent the company from extending the course by 1 day and getting additional freeze months out of a pilot, like they did with the 320>330 course a few years ago). As I said, the 7ER/400 was just an "example" in 22.G, not a definitive list, but still...

FangsF15

UAL flies thee 767-300 and -400 in one category. My understanding is that the FAA would have allowed DL to do it too, but they would have had to maintain a currency in both aircraft simultaneously. DL did not want to deal with that headache, so the company decided to kept them separate categories.

Also, useless trivia... the reason the -400 category name is the 765 is because there used to be a domestic (764) and international (765) category. When they got rid of the domestic only category, they kept the international designator with the pilots in it. Dumb, but this is Doing Everything Like The Amish after all...


300 (7ER's) are older by a good bit.

DWC CAP10 USAF

Older by roughly 5 years.

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Delta-Air-Lines

PilotBases

There were 9 or so post-y2k 763s that are now flying for Amazon. Might have been helpful here, in hindsight…