FangsF15

ZERO chance. Zip, zero, zilch. Fact.

nene

They "bypass" someone who may be retiring soon so that they don't waste precious resources training for a new position which may only be filled for a few weeks/months before said pilot retires.

In your question's example, they would just pick the next junior pilot as well for transition so that the end result is they get the number of pilots going where they want.

Problem with predicting bypassing is (at least in prior contract, not sure if it's changed), if they offer a pilot a bypass (would be to a higher paying position) they have to offer it to anyone who requested it that is senior to that pilot also transitioning. So sometimes a junior pilot with only 2 months left will be forced to go to training because honoring that bypass request would have forced the company to bypass 5 others who were senior but had substantial time left at the company.

I have known a pilot that was bypassed from right seat to left seat of the 400 for two years though, so he gets cappy pay but gets to bid and fly as FO for last two years. So it can be lucrative if a few people junior to you have less time to retirement and ask to be bypassed.

Oops too slow on the response....others gave cognizant responses

FlexManFlex

Thanks the responses everyone!

FangsF15

Sorry for the continued rabbit hole…. I do think it will be interesting to see how bypasses settle out in the future now that the contract allows a once-per-career withdrawal from an AE award. There will be a huge increase in people requesting bypass, now that the consequence of rolling the dice is gone. Why not give it a try if you are getting close to retirement, especially if the AE is large?

The question is, will bypasses increase as a result?

FlexManFlex

Don’t be sorry! I love these forums because we can ask and speak our minds and it’s always good info to someone at least. I read that the AE memo’s discuss bypasses like you can bid for it but you cannot bid for it. Do they mention bypasses because they wanna let everyone know that it’s not a guarantee? I guess they are referring to those who are about to retire and letting them know that bypasses aren’t always a sure thing? It’s confusing to me because AE memos make it seem like you can bid for bypasses even tho I know you can’t now

gloopy

Right, it is a growing sub fleet. But IMO no one bids the fleet for that amount of a pay difference only when they fly it. That's miniscule and well within the margin of error just going to Va Ave.

myrkridia

My guess is bypasses in the short term would decrease or stay the same because of that mulligan. They know that if they don't award the bypass, then the pilot would use their one in a lifetime buyer's remorse card and cost them nothing. In the long term I suspect it will go back to what it is now since people will use their parachute for life events or pilot error.

bugman61

FWIW, since they started using the jepp software for bids they generally only have awarded “mandatory” bypasses which are at company discretion within 2 years of retirement. There is no seniority factor on these bypasses. So if you are senior to but younger than someone who was bypassed under this section, no bypass for you is required.

FL370esq

Don't know too many 30 year olds who are within 2/5 years of age 65 retirement. Tell me you didn't read PWA 22.E.13 without telling me you didn't read PWA 22.E.13. 🤣

cskafan123

If one wants to bid captain any base any aircraft is there a way to do that in mycrew?All I see is 16 options.Tnx