Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
06-06-2023, 11:43 AM
#2571
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: B737 FO
Posts: 702
For sure. Looking at the previous AEs it looks like each category is almost grouped. Let’s say you get ATL330B, odds are everyone within that specific category will train within a few weeks of each other. The whole “convert after jr” will buy you a couple weeks but sometimes that’s all you need.
If you did have a “family life event” like a wedding that you are the best man in, is training helpful at all in working with you or are you pretty much on your own? I know there is no guarantee
If you did have a “family life event” like a wedding that you are the best man in, is training helpful at all in working with you or are you pretty much on your own? I know there is no guarantee
YMMV, BWYWWWYB, etc.
I sent you a PM.
06-06-2023, 11:55 AM
#2572
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Hates Commuting
Posts: 927
06-06-2023, 11:58 AM
#2573
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,122
Sucks that we can't bid on training dates or anything and have zero control, but unfortunately that's the way it is because...Delta.
Also this company, like all companies, really doesn't care about us employees... so the sooner people learn that, the better.
06-06-2023, 01:10 PM
#2574
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,675
You’re missing my point. I’ve only been here for 5 years so I get that it hasn’t been long but what I’m saying is I don’t care how it use to be I care about how it should be. It is an outdated system. There needs to be more information on them like weekly updates on the future plans with routes, etc from networking. I enjoy this kind of stuff and many others do too. That’s great that BS is giving us more info now than we have gotten in the past. We can agree to disagree but I’m sticking to the fact that we should be kept in the loop more with what networking is thinking and what the next 6 months look like. I know I’m probably coming across as dumb and ignorant but I’m confident they can do better.
My buddies with business 9-5 type jobs have a meeting every single day which management discusses any new information with them. If everything here is constantly changing, which it is, then why don’t we have daily meetings/information posted discussing those changes? 99% of this forum is guessing and speculating. Daily meetings like a quick 5-10 minute video from network and planning would solve that. Just food for thought. I’m not here to change your mind!
My buddies with business 9-5 type jobs have a meeting every single day which management discusses any new information with them. If everything here is constantly changing, which it is, then why don’t we have daily meetings/information posted discussing those changes? 99% of this forum is guessing and speculating. Daily meetings like a quick 5-10 minute video from network and planning would solve that. Just food for thought. I’m not here to change your mind!
I mean technically all that matters is what they post on an AE, but even that doesn't matter because they don't even have to fill all the positions they post. So no, I do not want weekly updates on what is in their minds because that will just lead to a constant yo-yo of emotions over endless possibilities most of which won't even pan out. Does anyone remember the whole A220 debacle where for months they were saying it was going to be in a certain base (LAX?) then BAM, the AE posts and it's a completely different base that wasn't even on the radar? I just enjoy where I'm at, and take each AE posting as it comes and evaluate the options that are presented and act accordingly.
06-06-2023, 01:43 PM
#2575
Moderator
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 4,569
You’re missing my point. I’ve only been here for 5 years so I get that it hasn’t been long but what I’m saying is I don’t care how it use to be I care about how it should be. It is an outdated system. There needs to be more information on them like weekly updates on the future plans with routes, etc from networking. I enjoy this kind of stuff and many others do too. That’s great that BS is giving us more info now than we have gotten in the past. We can agree to disagree but I’m sticking to the fact that we should be kept in the loop more with what networking is thinking and what the next 6 months look like. I know I’m probably coming across as dumb and ignorant but I’m confident they can do better.
My buddies with business 9-5 type jobs have a meeting every single day which management discusses any new information with them. If everything here is constantly changing, which it is, then why don’t we have daily meetings/information posted discussing those changes? 99% of this forum is guessing and speculating. Daily meetings like a quick 5-10 minute video from network and planning would solve that. Just food for thought. I’m not here to change your mind!
My buddies with business 9-5 type jobs have a meeting every single day which management discusses any new information with them. If everything here is constantly changing, which it is, then why don’t we have daily meetings/information posted discussing those changes? 99% of this forum is guessing and speculating. Daily meetings like a quick 5-10 minute video from network and planning would solve that. Just food for thought. I’m not here to change your mind!
I am the opposite in that I think that is the worst possible thing they could do. Why get an update on Monday when the Tuesday update changes things, then the Wednesday update changes Tuesday's? Talk about an overload of completely useless information. I don't need to know that they're thinking about adding 30 ATL 320A, and 20 DTW 320A, oh wait, now we want 20 ATL 320A, and 30 DTW 320A, oh wait, maybe will shift that flying to SLC and add 50 SLC 320A, oh wait...
I mean technically all that matters is what they post on an AE, but even that doesn't matter because they don't even have to fill all the positions they post. So no, I do not want weekly updates on what is in their minds because that will just lead to a constant yo-yo of emotions over endless possibilities most of which won't even pan out. Does anyone remember the whole A220 debacle where for months they were saying it was going to be in a certain base (LAX?) then BAM, the AE posts and it's a completely different base that wasn't even on the radar? I just enjoy where I'm at, and take each AE posting as it comes and evaluate the options that are presented and act accordingly.
I mean technically all that matters is what they post on an AE, but even that doesn't matter because they don't even have to fill all the positions they post. So no, I do not want weekly updates on what is in their minds because that will just lead to a constant yo-yo of emotions over endless possibilities most of which won't even pan out. Does anyone remember the whole A220 debacle where for months they were saying it was going to be in a certain base (LAX?) then BAM, the AE posts and it's a completely different base that wasn't even on the radar? I just enjoy where I'm at, and take each AE posting as it comes and evaluate the options that are presented and act accordingly.
06-06-2023, 06:33 PM
#2576
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Gramercy Riffs
Posts: 500
Flexy, I don’t know how long you’ve been in this business or how many years you have left but from someone a lot closer to the end than the beginning - relax, roll with it and let stuff happen. It’s a cliche but it really is a marathon, not a sprint.
06-06-2023, 07:13 PM
#2577
Leaves Biscoff crumbs
Joined APC: Jan 2020
Position: Blue Juice Taste Tester
Posts: 1,363
Yeah I've been strategically disappointing my family for years with the fluid nature of the job that they no longer give me crap when I miss anything. I still make an effort but now when I can't make it everyone just assumes I'm flying and nobody makes a big deal about it. There's rumors of an October AE floating around already
06-06-2023, 07:19 PM
#2578
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,546
My buddies with business 9-5 type jobs have a meeting every single day which management discusses any new information with them. If everything here is constantly changing, which it is, then why don’t we have daily meetings/information posted discussing those changes? 99% of this forum is guessing and speculating. Daily meetings like a quick 5-10 minute video from network and planning would solve that. Just food for thought. I’m not here to change your mind!
06-06-2023, 07:31 PM
#2579
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 10,224
Wow. Just looked and it's been 6 months since the last posted AE. That's a long time even for Delta. Usually about a quarter apart sometimes as few as 2 months and the longest I recall was about 5 months, during normal times of hiring of course. I have no plans to bid so it is moo for me but we must be running out of excess new hire positions. Hmmm.
06-06-2023, 08:30 PM
#2580
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Joined APC: May 2022
Posts: 120
Wow. Just looked and it's been 6 months since the last posted AE. That's a long time even for Delta. Usually about a quarter apart sometimes as few as 2 months and the longest I recall was about 5 months, during normal times of hiring of course. I have no plans to bid so it is moo for me but we must be running out of excess new hire positions. Hmmm.
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