Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
12-08-2022, 08:15 AM
#241
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,258
I haven’t talked in person yet that is voting yes. Just finished some sims at the school house. Both instructors are voting No. Sim parter No. Pilots at the hotel bar voting No. Jumpseat ride home, both pilots voting No. Talked with a rep, voting No.
Most are upset with retirement, retro and new changes to premium pay that will benefit the company.
Most are upset with retirement, retro and new changes to premium pay that will benefit the company.
Statistically, what you say is improbable, and I view your "conclusion", as being equally flawed.
BTW Care to address the results Bug posted to your previous drivel about APC?
12-08-2022, 08:18 AM
#242
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Position: On the hotel shuttle
Posts: 5,953
Maybe there is something to be said for the FA's, cousin's, mechanic husband at AA who's "in the know."
12-08-2022, 08:21 AM
#243
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Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 91
Ultimately, if you're only getting one answer to something like this, the reasoning I suspect is in how the question is being asked.
Don't get me wrong. There are definitely no voters out there, and there are good reasons for that. Just as there are yes voters, with good reasons for that, too. But the answer I give if I'm asked in person depends greatly on the manner of the asking. If it's very hostile, I'll tell you I'm a no. If it's hostile, I'll probably play the "undecided" card (which is *technically* true), but lean no. If you're neutral, I'm neutral. If you're positive or very positive, I'm undecided but lean yes (my actual position, pending language).
But basically, I'm down for a rational discussion of the good and the bad. I want to make an informed decision. I'm not down for rampant hate, and I'll treat it the same way I treat other "taboo" topics while at work - a noncommittal "Hmm".
Don't get me wrong. There are definitely no voters out there, and there are good reasons for that. Just as there are yes voters, with good reasons for that, too. But the answer I give if I'm asked in person depends greatly on the manner of the asking. If it's very hostile, I'll tell you I'm a no. If it's hostile, I'll probably play the "undecided" card (which is *technically* true), but lean no. If you're neutral, I'm neutral. If you're positive or very positive, I'm undecided but lean yes (my actual position, pending language).
But basically, I'm down for a rational discussion of the good and the bad. I want to make an informed decision. I'm not down for rampant hate, and I'll treat it the same way I treat other "taboo" topics while at work - a noncommittal "Hmm".
12-08-2022, 08:24 AM
#244
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 315
Ultimately, if you're only getting one answer to something like this, the reasoning I suspect is in how the question is being asked.
Don't get me wrong. There are definitely no voters out there, and there are good reasons for that. Just as there are yes voters, with good reasons for that, too. But the answer I give if I'm asked in person depends greatly on the manner of the asking. If it's very hostile, I'll tell you I'm a no. If it's hostile, I'll probably play the "undecided" card (which is *technically* true), but lean no. If you're neutral, I'm neutral. If you're positive or very positive, I'm undecided but lean yes (my actual position, pending language).
But basically, I'm down for a rational discussion of the good and the bad. I want to make an informed decision. I'm not down for rampant hate, and I'll treat it the same way I treat other "taboo" topics while at work - a noncommittal "Hmm".
Don't get me wrong. There are definitely no voters out there, and there are good reasons for that. Just as there are yes voters, with good reasons for that, too. But the answer I give if I'm asked in person depends greatly on the manner of the asking. If it's very hostile, I'll tell you I'm a no. If it's hostile, I'll probably play the "undecided" card (which is *technically* true), but lean no. If you're neutral, I'm neutral. If you're positive or very positive, I'm undecided but lean yes (my actual position, pending language).
But basically, I'm down for a rational discussion of the good and the bad. I want to make an informed decision. I'm not down for rampant hate, and I'll treat it the same way I treat other "taboo" topics while at work - a noncommittal "Hmm".
12-08-2022, 09:26 AM
#246
Moderator
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DAL 330
Posts: 7,017
Agree with what you said for bases on 330. Have you seen the bid package in MSP? Those 6 days are crap. NYC 330 has the best trips in the 330.
SDY is one of the best trips in the system. Trips pay better on the 350. More time off the 350. I hope the 330 goes more senior. It might if they ever open up a SLC 330 base.
But this thing might not pass. Not everyone is excited about it. Go look and read on the other forums.
SDY is one of the best trips in the system. Trips pay better on the 350. More time off the 350. I hope the 330 goes more senior. It might if they ever open up a SLC 330 base.
But this thing might not pass. Not everyone is excited about it. Go look and read on the other forums.
Speaking of MSP did you notice the daily 0500 shows for a 1 day turn starting Jan 10th?
This has me wondering about the wisdom of bidding reserve as a commuter which I wanted to do. That 18 hour LC would totally alleviate this issue. Whats up with 0500 shows on a WB fleet? Is this a one off or does this sort of thing happen a lot?Scoop
12-08-2022, 10:08 AM
#247
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,897
I haven’t talked in person yet that is voting yes. Just finished some sims at the school house. Both instructors are voting No. Sim parter No. Pilots at the hotel bar voting No. Jumpseat ride home, both pilots voting No. Talked with a rep, voting No.
Most are upset with retirement, retro and new changes to premium pay that will benefit the company.
Most are upset with retirement, retro and new changes to premium pay that will benefit the company.
When it passes, you may still struggle to find yes voters lol.
12-08-2022, 10:38 AM
#248
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 867
So, out of 12-15 pilots (or more) not 1 is a yes?.....that indeed is enlightening. I am going to change to a No....especially because I am going to lose all my GS!
Statistically, what you say is improbable, and I view your "conclusion", as being equally flawed.
BTW Care to address the results Bug posted to your previous drivel about APC?
Statistically, what you say is improbable, and I view your "conclusion", as being equally flawed.
BTW Care to address the results Bug posted to your previous drivel about APC?
12-08-2022, 10:59 AM
#249
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: A320 Left seat
Posts: 2,594
12-08-2022, 11:27 AM
#250
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Joined APC: Sep 2019
Posts: 265
It’s awesome that everyone is a no or even yes vote without even reading it? Do you all just skip the qrh as well and just make a decision?
thought the chairman put out a good email on this
thought the chairman put out a good email on this
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