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05-14-2023, 12:25 PM

#2391

DELTAFO

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Originally Posted by Meme In Command

ID be interested to see how that saves the company money. I feel like smaller AE's would be easier to course correct if you make erroneous staffing decisions. Small fire easier to put out than big fire.

I don't remember exact numbers but large, infrequent AEs reduce training events per retirement by a statistically significant amount

05-14-2023, 12:46 PM

#2392

NuGuy

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Originally Posted by DELTAFO

I don't remember exact numbers but large, infrequent AEs reduce training events per retirement by a statistically significant amount

That might have been true in the past, but now with so many open spots, people probably freak out and sport bid far more than they used to. People are probably far more reticent to try out different bases as well.

Company would be better off going to every other month bids to let the water seek its own level. Folks might be more apt to swap around bases if they didn't think they might get stuck there.

05-14-2023, 02:51 PM

#2393

tcco94

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Originally Posted by TegridyFarms

8-9 year mark here. I’m not comparing pay scales and crossing pay to anything. I’m looking to do it for QOL. You said in an earlier post that you don’t see this happening. I responded and said I am thinking about it and I know 2 captains doing it for sure. All for the same reason: QOL.

Pay wise the discrepancy is small for me and I’m not a “gotta be the captain” kind of guy. I say this as I sit here taxiing in on a domestic rrt deadhead. The irony 😂

I personally don’t care how or why people bid, I’m just telling you guys do it. People think NB A Pay is gonna entice people back to the soul crushing side of this…. Nah.

Hey I don’t blame you one bit. I commute from a DL base for 5 day 1 leg trips going to Hawaii and Europe rather than drive to work for the crap I can hold on 737/320…even as a top 30% senior FO.

So really I can understand guys who will downgrade. I just wonder if some talk the talk then end up not doing it lol

05-14-2023, 02:52 PM

#2394

tcco94

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Originally Posted by PilotBases

Remember a lot of it is projection. Yeah NB schedules blow, so for a while when WB was senior people could point and say “NB trips are so bad people only want WB, that’s why it’s so senior” and since then it’s been constant “reasons” for why each AE putting newhires into WB is an aberration and will end with the next one.

Yeah very fair, seems like these types of convos naturally always come up right around the time an AE is approaching

05-16-2023, 01:42 PM

#2395

Meme In Command

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Straight from my buddy's buddy in indoc: Next AE (after the June one) in October

05-16-2023, 03:03 PM

#2396

FangsF15

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Originally Posted by Meme In Command

Straight from my buddy's buddy in indoc: Next AE (after the June one) in October

4 months between AE’s is not “more frequent”… Yet. We’ve historically had 4-5 annually.

Given the first training for the June AE will be September, maybe it’s not as ‘bad’ as it seems?