Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
12-08-2022, 07:29 AM
#231
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
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Flip the script. Most guys/girls wanted TA1 to pass on this forum. You got that going for you.
12-08-2022, 07:52 AM
#233
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Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 91
I wasn't here for TA1, but when it comes to online forums, what shows up in a poll versus what impressions we get from discussion is often different, because discussions are often dominated by the same dozen or so people posting basically the same things (for or against). Most others maybe pop in for a question, get an answer, and disappear again. But voting in a poll is easy!
12-08-2022, 07:54 AM
#234
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: LAX ER
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Agree with what you said for bases on 330. Have you seen the bid package in MSP? Those 6 days are crap. NYC 330 has the best trips in the 330.
SDY is one of the best trips in the system. Trips pay better on the 350. More time off the 350. I hope the 330 goes more senior. It might if they ever open up a SLC 330 base.
But this thing might not pass. Not everyone is excited about it. Go look and read on the other forums.
SDY is one of the best trips in the system. Trips pay better on the 350. More time off the 350. I hope the 330 goes more senior. It might if they ever open up a SLC 330 base.
But this thing might not pass. Not everyone is excited about it. Go look and read on the other forums.
12-08-2022, 07:59 AM
#235
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,258
I wasn't here for TA1, but when it comes to online forums, what shows up in a poll versus what impressions we get from discussion is often different, because discussions are often dominated by the same dozen or so people posting basically the same things (for or against). Most others maybe pop in for a question, get an answer, and disappear again. But voting in a poll is easy!
12-08-2022, 08:07 AM
#236
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Posts: 762
So far the only no’s I’ve seen are deadzoners upset about min balance. Which will never be a thing. Or those who wanted 30-40% full retro payment. Most every other airline forum or conversation is about how asinine we would be to say no to this. Not sure where you’re reading… Widget contract page? Lol
Most are upset with retirement, retro and new changes to premium pay that will benefit the company.
12-08-2022, 08:11 AM
#237
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: Captain
Posts: 830
I haven’t talked in person yet that is voting yes. Just finished some sims at the school house. Both instructors are voting No. Sim parter No. Pilots at the hotel bar voting No. Jumpseat ride home, both pilots voting No. Talked with a rep, voting No.
Most are upset with retirement, retro and new changes to premium pay that will benefit the company.
Most are upset with retirement, retro and new changes to premium pay that will benefit the company.
12-08-2022, 08:11 AM
#238
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,237
I remember it quite differently. There was a very loud objection to TA1. Even the sentiment to TA2 seemed less favorable to this. I voted NO to both of them. So far, likely a YES on this one. I always envisioned myself as an always vote NO guy. I never thought I’d have an opportunity to vote on a contract with substantial gains and not filled with concessions. Well, I may have that opportunity now.
12-08-2022, 08:12 AM
#239
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,704
Yep, need ~50 hours to be in that window, figured that was what they were going to do when it was radio silence thru the Fall. I'll gladly fly on my old fleet, it's just now the issue of being converted so I can't bid or anything. Hit up the union for guidance so we'll see.
12-08-2022, 08:12 AM
#240
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 907
I haven’t talked in person yet that is voting yes. Just finished some sims at the school house. Both instructors are voting No. Sim parter No. Pilots at the hotel bar voting No. Jumpseat ride home, both pilots voting No. Talked with a rep, voting No.
Most are upset with retirement, retro and new changes to premium pay that will benefit the company.
Most are upset with retirement, retro and new changes to premium pay that will benefit the company.
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