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Old 05-13-2023, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Or when they displaced a bunch of pilots from the MD88 and then un-displaced them? Or when they said we're moving to smaller, more frequent bids. iCrew would even allow you to put in the LAX220 bid in for your AE preferences. Nothing really surprises me anymore, but I certainly take everything with a grain of salt.
I never believe them when they mention more frequent…smaller bids. I think it would be more efficient than the large bids, but Delta has an institutional fear of smaller bids. Goes with their institutional fear of large aircraft.
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Old 05-13-2023, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilMcCrackin
Heard from crew resources that the next AE is late June but they won’t start sending people to training until September. Is this even allowed?
Ready for Right as the seasonal Europe drawdown in flying begins, I don’t think this AE will be the as WOW as the last couple, curios to see if some of the senior
FOs take the upgrades to the new pay rates…
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Old 05-13-2023, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dbrownie
Ready for Right as the seasonal Europe drawdown in flying begins, I don’t think this AE will be the as WOW as the last couple, curios to see if some of the senior
FOs take the upgrades to the new pay rates…
I know some seniority Bs on NB and WB finally eyeballing NB A.
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Old 05-13-2023, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
I know some seniority Bs on NB and WB finally eyeballing NB A.
I know some NB A’s eyeballing some widebody B spots. I’ll look in the mirror and discuss this further with one of them.
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Old 05-13-2023, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex
And I’ll keep asking it until the AE comes out. It’s been half a year and still no official word at all. Idc what BS says at some meeting. I haven’t seen “second half of June” on writing anywhere so I’ll just keep asking.
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Old 05-13-2023, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TegridyFarms
I know some NB A’s eyeballing some widebody B spots. I’ll look in the mirror and discuss this further with one of them.
Yeah...after seeing my June schedule I might be one of them. Brutal.
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Old 05-13-2023, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TegridyFarms
I know some NB A’s eyeballing some widebody B spots. I’ll look in the mirror and discuss this further with one of them.
How many truthfully downgrade themselves? A lot of people on internet say this then it seems like it almost never happens on the bids (in any meaningful capacity worth mentioning). It’s not like this summer is shockingly different than all the previous red lined summers. If anything going forward it could be better with new PWA improvements coming on the overnights and pay.

I think this is just a lodged internet complaint that doesn’t hold much water in reality.
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Old 05-13-2023, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
How many truthfully downgrade themselves? A lot of people on internet say this then it seems like it almost never happens on the bids (in any meaningful capacity worth mentioning). It’s not like this summer is shockingly different than all the previous red lined summers. If anything going forward it could be better with new PWA improvements coming on the overnights and pay.

I think this is just a lodged internet complaint that doesn’t hold much water in reality.
What’s a downgrade? $283 for WB-B vs $308 for WB A. Difference $25 an hour.

This doesn’t include international override.

This is also the difference between 150 block hours a year and 600 block hours per year. I’m considering it, for sure. My only concern is sleep in the international world. I think I can hack it 150 hours per year though. I know two other NB A’s that are 100% going to WB-B next bid. I’m on the fence. So in the little bubble I live in, 66% of the people I know that are considering downgrading themselves will for sure be doing it, with one maybe.

Has nothing to do with “red line” and everything to do with the new PWA/rates/reserve.
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Old 05-13-2023, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
How many truthfully downgrade themselves? A lot of people on internet say this then it seems like it almost never happens on the bids (in any meaningful capacity worth mentioning). It’s not like this summer is shockingly different than all the previous red lined summers. If anything going forward it could be better with new PWA improvements coming on the overnights and pay.

I think this is just a lodged internet complaint that doesn’t hold much water in reality.
I did it. ATL 320A to ATL 330B and it’s quite possibly the happiest professional move I’ve ever made.
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Old 05-14-2023, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hvydvr
I did it. ATL 320A to ATL 330B and it’s quite possibly the happiest professional move I’ve ever made.
At what years of service and seniority in seat are y’all making the move from NB A to WB B. Just curious.
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