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Old 05-04-2023, 05:43 AM
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Old 05-04-2023, 06:04 AM
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Been flying with a number of FOs many who are still in their first year, some still on probation too who are casually throwing around how they’re considering “taking an upgrade” in a non-NYC base on the next AE.

With the QOL enhancements from the new PWA and seat locks about to evaporate off countless UNA peeps, is the junior A award gonna touch people hired after 1/2022? What you say people of airlinepilotcentral?
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Old 05-04-2023, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by game
Been flying with a number of FOs many who are still in their first year, some still on probation too who are casually throwing around how they’re considering “taking an upgrade” in a non-NYC base on the next AE.

With the QOL enhancements from the new PWA and seat locks about to evaporate off countless UNA peeps, is the junior A award gonna touch people hired after 1/2022? What you say people of airlinepilotcentral?
Outside NYC? I’d be shocked. Stranger things have happened, though.

Either way, I suspect some folks will be shocked at what they do get, and others will be shocked at what they don’t. This is an AE bid people should plan to enter in iCrew fully sober.
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Old 05-04-2023, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by game
Been flying with a number of FOs many who are still in their first year, some still on probation too who are casually throwing around how they’re considering “taking an upgrade” in a non-NYC base on the next AE.

With the QOL enhancements from the new PWA and seat locks about to evaporate off countless UNA peeps, is the junior A award gonna touch people hired after 1/2022? What you say people of airlinepilotcentral?
I flew with one on probation who told me he "bypassed upgrade in ATL last AE" but will take it on this AE. He had been here like 5 months during the last AE. I was like man, I doubt you'll be able to hold captain in ATL on anything on this one..but good luck!
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Old 05-04-2023, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by game
Been flying with a number of FOs many who are still in their first year, some still on probation too who are casually throwing around how they’re considering “taking an upgrade” in a non-NYC base on the next AE.

With the QOL enhancements from the new PWA and seat locks about to evaporate off countless UNA peeps, is the junior A award gonna touch people hired after 1/2022? What you say people of airlinepilotcentral?
UNA folks taking Captain this time due to seat lock being up is not a factor. There is no seat lock for first time Captain. They could have taken it at any time. And if they already took Captain then there would be a two year seat lock from that Captain upgrade probably still in effect for quite a while.
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Old 05-04-2023, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by game
Been flying with a number of FOs many who are still in their first year, some still on probation too who are casually throwing around how they’re considering “taking an upgrade” in a non-NYC base on the next AE.

With the QOL enhancements from the new PWA and seat locks about to evaporate off countless UNA peeps, is the junior A award gonna touch people hired after 1/2022? What you say people of airlinepilotcentral?
I predict everyone who doesn't bid for a seat they want, won't get it. Expect LOTS of qualifiers in the bids and many awards going deeper than the 3rd choice.
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Old 05-04-2023, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by game
Been flying with a number of FOs many who are still in their first year, some still on probation too who are casually throwing around how they’re considering “taking an upgrade” in a non-NYC base on the next AE.

With the QOL enhancements from the new PWA and seat locks about to evaporate off countless UNA peeps, is the junior A award gonna touch people hired after 1/2022? What you say people of airlinepilotcentral?
I expect movement of mid to upper seniority Boeing A's to bid over to 320 A for the pay. I expect quite a few NB A's to jump over to WB B. Lastly, I also believe we will see 2022 hires taking junior A outside NYC. There's going to be very junior guys hoping to upgrade optimisically hoping 18hr LC makes reserve go senior upping their chances of holding a line more junior and there's going to by FO's now with decent schedule control that don't wanna risk being the plug with how bad NB scheudles have been. I will be surprised if a 2022 hire doesn't get ATL 7ERA. I haven't been here long at all and I am shocked at the amount of guys to me that don't understand the concept of backfills.
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Old 05-04-2023, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by game
Been flying with a number of FOs many who are still in their first year, some still on probation too who are casually throwing around how they’re considering “taking an upgrade” in a non-NYC base on the next AE.

With the QOL enhancements from the new PWA and seat locks about to evaporate off countless UNA peeps, is the junior A award gonna touch people hired after 1/2022? What you say people of airlinepilotcentral?
The 73N/7ER/717 will probably still go junior in most bases. Most people have qualifiers that haven’t been met yet, as a 20-30% pay increase is a tough sell to be junior NB A at the moment.
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Old 05-04-2023, 08:27 AM
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I expect movement of mid to upper seniority Boeing A's to bid over to 320 A for the pay. I expect quite a few NB A's to jump over to WB B. Lastly, I also believe we will see 2022 hires taking junior A outside NYC. There's going to be very junior guys hoping to upgrade optimisically hoping 18hr LC makes reserve go senior upping their chances of holding a line more junior and there's going to by FO's now with decent schedule control that don't wanna risk being the plug with how bad NB scheudles have been. I will be surprised if a 2022 hire doesn't get ATL 7ERA. I haven't been here long at all and I am shocked at the amount of guys to me that don't understand the concept of backfills.
Boeing Captains bidding to 320 for pay?? Equal pay at best, less seniority and a trip to VA Avenue for their trouble. I don’t really expect that to be a thing AT ALL.
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Old 05-04-2023, 08:27 AM
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In my opinion seat locks from UNA weren’t as big of a factor as many think. The initial bid off UNA had zero seat lock the subsequent AE many did normal requal which only has 1 year lock due to shorter footprint. Most had less than 6 months left on seat lock by the time they actually trained. Many then took upgrades to equipment they were flying which was a short footprint with only 1 year lock again by the time they trained for upgrade likely only have 6 months left on those locks anyways. I think that premium pay will dry up and training will slow down causing upgrades to go more senior.
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