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Old 05-03-2023, 04:38 AM
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We would still be flying mad dogs if it wasn’t for Covid. I bet they wish they didn’t get rid of it still.

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I don't think so. The 88 was going away before covid was a thing. I was planning my exit strategy Dec of 2019.

I can’t speak to whether or not they wish we still had them. But at the rate of engine failures we were having it’s gotta be the mx costs were escalating.
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Old 05-03-2023, 05:39 AM
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Start hiring at ATP mins and train them ourselves, cut the regionals out of the process.
The 1000 hrs to be captain is eliminating the regionals. It’s no surprise the minimums here are being lowered to regional hiring minimums.
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Old 05-03-2023, 06:19 AM
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Start hiring at ATP mins and train them ourselves, cut the regionals out of the process.
I can see this happening by 2025
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Old 05-03-2023, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The 1000 hrs to be captain is eliminating the regionals. It’s no surprise the minimums here are being lowered to regional hiring minimums.
my prediction is by 2026, regionals will go back to what they were in the 1970's. A place to build time, with low pay. They'll still exist, but no longer do lift for the airlines. It's no longer cost-effective to use them.
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Old 05-03-2023, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Flying Monkey
I don't think so. The 88 was going away before covid was a thing. I was planning my exit strategy Dec of 2019.

I can’t speak to whether or not they wish we still had them. But at the rate of engine failures we were having it’s gotta be the mx costs were escalating.
The requirement for ADS-B was also a factor for many airlines flying the mad dog.
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Old 05-03-2023, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Flying Monkey
I don't think so. The 88 was going away before covid was a thing. I was planning my exit strategy Dec of 2019.

I can’t speak to whether or not they wish we still had them. But at the rate of engine failures we were having it’s gotta be the mx costs were escalating.
pre-Covid the MD-90 was slotted as a end of 2022 retirement. I bet that would have been extended. Just like the 88 was.
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Old 05-03-2023, 12:40 PM
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my prediction is by 2026, regionals will go back to what they were in the 1970's. A place to build time, with low pay. They'll still exist, but no longer do lift for the airlines. It's no longer cost-effective to use them.
This is an interesting concept. The question is, what will they fly and for whom. There were a couple fee-for-departure carriers that tried to go it alone and failed.

Will the turboprop come back to take the EAS routes under a 135 model? I could see someone propose a national (yes, I'm thinking pre-deregulation style) regional airline that covers a 'region' of EAS. None of the outsourcing the RJs caused, but a true EAS regional model. One for each of the corners and one for the central U.S. (maybe N. and S.) Who knows.
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Old 05-03-2023, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Monkey
I don't think so. The 88 was going away before covid was a thing. I was planning my exit strategy Dec of 2019.
The MD88 caused COVID.

When the MD88 went away, COVID went away.

It's obvious, really.
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Old 05-03-2023, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by captkdobbs

Will the turboprop come back to take the EAS routes under a 135 model? I could see someone propose a national (yes, I'm thinking pre-deregulation style) regional airline that covers a 'region' of EAS. None of the outsourcing the RJs caused, but a true EAS regional model. One for each of the corners and one for the central U.S. (maybe N. and S.) Who knows.
Age 67 will fix the staffing problems for EAS and ATC.

Age 67 will also save us from liberals, diversity, woke'ness & those damned 45-year-olds who think they are ready for upgrade.
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Perfect, thanks! Finally some promising news. I’m glad it’s not getting pushed back any further
Since idk how to just reply to the thread without quoting someone, I’ll use my last post to quote. I’ve heard 3 different things now and all of which were apparently from BS himself at yesterday’s ATL meeting. I’ve heard AE “first half of June” “second half of June” and “maybe June or July or august” . If the guy said something, only one of the options are true. Anyone know exactly what he said? I’m just curious! I’ve got buddies questioning me now.
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