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Old 04-20-2023, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Also, run a massive displacement bid well before other airlines and certainly before you offer a VEOP... that will certainly help getting people in the right seats.






Can't remember the exact story, but someone attributed a leap year, being partly responsible for one of our meltdowns a few years back. Someone also mentioned the mid afternoon storms in Atlanta coming early, as being another reason for a strategic level meltdown. Nevermind running rotations so tight that there is absolutely zero room to flex with delays.
Earlier this year I got sent home on day 2 of a 4 day. We were scheduled super tight. We got told by CS they expected delays some delays on the last leg of the day they opted to send us home and get a reserve crew on it. I'm happy it worked out pretty good for us but man, just seems so grossly inefficient.
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Old 04-20-2023, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaxs170
It's because:

1) 350 fleet is growing
2) SLC-ICN will be on the 350
3) 330 performance issues during summer

The 350 is the right plane for SLC
Does a fully loaded 350 on a hot summer day in SLC not have performance limitations? or is it just better than the 330?
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Old 04-20-2023, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bugman61
In Delta’s never ending quest to blame operational failures on everything but management, a communication after a meltdown said that it was a leap year making the February bid period one day longer and that caused it all to fall apart. It’s similar to when they said a summer disaster was because there were thunderstorms.
I remember the comments on here about leap year and ATL summer TS, but I thought it was Trip7 that rationalized the ops problems with those excuses….I don’t remember a memo.
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Old 04-20-2023, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
I remember the comments on here about leap year and ATL summer TS, but I thought it was Trip7 that rationalized the ops problems with those excuses….I don’t remember a memo.
BS definitely used those excuses. 100% factual.
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Old 04-20-2023, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
I remember the comments on here about leap year and ATL summer TS, but I thought it was Trip7 that rationalized the ops problems with those excuses….I don’t remember a memo.
If I recall, there was an entire thread titled, "Leap Year." Might need to resurrect that one next year.

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Old 04-20-2023, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaxs170
It's because:

1) 350 fleet is growing
2) SLC-ICN will be on the 350
3) 330 performance issues during summer

The 350 is the right plane for SLC
the 330 is growing just as much as the 350 is? What 330 performance issues go on during the summer, outside the rare AD last summer that caused issues?

they also said SLC-ICN was not for many years. Can it even do that route year round? Can it take off full to Europe in 105 degrees with SLC terrain and elevation?

then you have to consider the fact of how many crews flow through AMS/LHR/CDG on 350? Some days and routes would be zero. No scheduling flexibility at all.

right now none of these bullets make sense for 350 in Slc besides maybe ICN. Which again they said wouldn’t happen until after Asiana merger and probably not end of decade timeframe (that NYC would get ICN route first)
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Old 04-20-2023, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaxs170
It's because:

1) 350 fleet is growing
2) SLC-ICN will be on the 350
3) 330 performance issues during summer

The 350 is the right plane for SLC
SLC < SEA for Asia. SEA is also the midpoint between Asia and Europe. SLC is a secondary market. Y'all are dreaming if you think there will be a Panda base there. JFK has a better chance of being the next 350 base.
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Old 04-20-2023, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
the 330 is growing just as much as the 350 is? What 330 performance issues go on during the summer, outside the rare AD last summer that caused issues?

they also said SLC-ICN was not for many years. Can it even do that route year round? Can it take off full to Europe in 105 degrees with SLC terrain and elevation?

then you have to consider the fact of how many crews flow through AMS/LHR/CDG on 350? Some days and routes would be zero. No scheduling flexibility at all.

right now none of these bullets make sense for 350 in Slc besides maybe ICN. Which again they said wouldn’t happen until after Asiana merger and probably not end of decade timeframe (that NYC would get ICN route first)
That was my point where in order for SLC350 to make sense they would need to put it on some europe routes and in order for that to make sense they would need to have crews do a “DTW-CDG-SLC-LHR-DTW” kinda deal on the 350 which I don’t see at all. I don’t see the 350 doing THAT much Europe so SLC wouldn’t make a lot of sense if it’s only doing ICN.

… although I never imagined we would use the 350 on ATL-DUB, LIM so never say never!
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Old 04-20-2023, 07:47 AM
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A note from A&J: we’re ready for summer. RUFKM No excuses this time ‘cause we already cut the schedule and hired a lot. The oops, hot, leap year is coming apology letter is in the can awaiting 9/15 release. Been away for a bit and coming back has been interesting. Not a single flight on time and reroutapalooza. This is gonna hurt… a little.
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Originally Posted by tcco94
the 330 is growing just as much as the 350 is? What 330 performance issues go on during the summer, outside the rare AD last summer that caused issues?

they also said SLC-ICN was not for many years. Can it even do that route year round? Can it take off full to Europe in 105 degrees with SLC terrain and elevation?
Last summer during a pretty good heat wave for a few days we were making fuel stops before heading to Europe. Wasn’t the whole summer. We are payload optimized often, however. I can’t recall if that was on the -300/-200 and/or the -302/-900. I never did the fuel stop, flew the week after.
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