crewdawg

To some, it's either raining gold coins or the world is about to collapse.

TED74

Feels like this could be the longest AE dry spell since hiring kicked off in 2014…anyone know if that’s the case?

With massive hiring and significant retirements it sure seems like an odd time to achieve that milestone. Then again, if management can knock an average of one or two full IQ courses off per pilot career by keeping you stuck longer than you’d like, they’re definitely winning.

I just want BS on record saying we’re shifting to larger, more infrequent AEs. Then I KNOW we’ll get the small, more frequent AEs most people want.

JustNarced

Pilots should take everything BS says, even Ed for that matter, with a grain of salt. They have their own non-public, not for profit, internal news network. The very nature of it is propaganda, ALPA told us to stay off of it yet some of us are on it daily, feeding at the trough. If they can put out half-truths, manipulate bidding strategies or leak false intent to a competing airline they surely will. Bid what you want and be happy sitting there until you are senior enough for the next jump. If you are a 3-year A and upset in the lack of movement, time for a reality check! Being an A doesn't sling shot you past the other 10,000 pilots between your seniority and the top 50% in that category, only 20 years' worth of retirements or a major draft will.

The AE is going to happen when it happens. There is a rumor floating around about 787's. If what I have heard is true, there will be some displacements in the WB world after summer. We have end of life 330's and -300ERs, it is what it is. I learned long ago that it's still a rumor even if the sim is bolted to the floor and Alteon has moved into the training center. Until you sign a release, and it says 787 in the equipment line, it's just pure BS.

tennisguru

That statement doesn’t make an ounce of sense, unless you’re talking about closing the SEA 7ER category. We have 15+ 330s and 350s coming in the next 12-24 months. 764’s are doing a nearly complete international schedule. So where are these displacements going to happen??

tcco94

What rumor of 787’s? The same rumor that has been going around for a decade?

Trip7

There is zero point to running an AE when they haven't finished training people from the last one with Summer right around the corner.

PilotBases

End of life 330s? Oldest is 20 this year and younger than the youngest 767s.

TED74

Says who? The people who have gotten nearly every projection wrong for years? Ed is finally realizing they’re overextended for summer and we are drawing back from the original plan. Shoulder seasons really aren’t shoulder seasons any more. Their training expenses and PWA efficiencies only grow with delayed-implementation items coming in to play. They are imbalanced in manning and plan to keep hiring, so AEs are necessary.

You don’t wait until training is complete on an AE before initiating another one - that would be illogical and clearly we haven’t gone 365 or 210 days between AEs in the past. Ultimately this team needs some humility that they can’t predict the future. Small, frequent corrective AEs would save them from themselves if they’d only give it a go. They’re drowning in data that they think enables actions (or inactions) that it frankly does not. The longer they wait, the larger the AE needs to be to catch up…and the more likely they’ll be wrong in how they execute it.

nwaf16dude

We hire until we furlough (UNA), furlough too many, wait too long to recall, then hire until we furlough…wash, rinse, repeat

…and green slip like crazy through it all

DWC CAP10 USAF

I see what you did there....