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Old 03-18-2023, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex
Wait, would an APU on takeoff have the same affect as packs off? And if I remember correctly you can’t fly across the pond without a working APU

Sort of. You can not leave the US to fly to Europe without an APU, but you can return to the US. IIRC it lowers your ETOPS from 180 to 120 minutes.

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Old 03-21-2023, 05:56 PM
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Making some bidding decisions here: Does the 7ER really not have intercom? You guys out there shouting at each other over avionics fans slowly losing your hearing and getting tinnitus?

(Not judging the pilots but rather the company for not retrofitting them)
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Old 03-21-2023, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
Making some bidding decisions here: Does the 7ER really not have intercom? You guys out there shouting at each other over avionics fans slowly losing your hearing and getting tinnitus?

(Not judging the pilots but rather the company for not retrofitting them)
Spent eight years on the ER. No shouting. Standard is removing headsets above FL180, turn up the speakers and keep the trucker mic handy. It’s a very comfortable way to fly.

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Old 03-21-2023, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
Making some bidding decisions here: Does the 7ER really not have intercom? You guys out there shouting at each other over avionics fans slowly losing your hearing and getting tinnitus?

(Not judging the pilots but rather the company for not retrofitting them)
correct. No hot mic on that airplane. Very annoying DL won’t put it on.
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Old 03-21-2023, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bo Darville
Spent eight years on the ER. No shouting. Standard is removing headsets above FL180, turn up the speakers and keep the trucker mic handy. It’s a very comfortable way to fly.

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I did a few years like you mentioned and a few years with the DC Pro X. No comparison on fatigue level (way less) and clarity of ATC communication with the Pro X. I’d wear them all the way across the pond.
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Old 03-21-2023, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bo Darville
Spent eight years on the ER. No shouting. Standard is removing headsets above FL180, turn up the speakers and keep the trucker mic handy. It’s a very comfortable way to fly.

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you definitely do have to talk loud at each other, and plenty of long time CAs have mentioned that their hearing sucks. It’s certainly not great for our hearing long term.
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Old 03-21-2023, 06:26 PM
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I'm only overly critical of this because I went through a period of temporary tinnitus a few months flying military with an improperly fitted helmet. The ringing drove me nuts but luckily it went away after several months. Now, I'm very strict with my hearing and going no headset is a hard no for me personally.
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Old 03-21-2023, 06:29 PM
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You can always wear earplugs… I do it all the time.
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Old 03-21-2023, 08:25 PM
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I hate when the captain wants to take the headset off above 180. I've got a full library on Spotify to listen to.
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Old 03-21-2023, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Amike
I hate when the captain wants to take the headset off above 180. I've got a full library on Spotify to listen to.
Bose Proflight with one ear in solves that problem.
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