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Old 03-14-2023, 03:43 PM
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Pre-optimizer/Covid, Delta would go tens or hundreds of days without a cancellation. It was probably one of the most reliable operations in aviation history. Now there is red on that board every day. Sure green slips will cover a lot of them but the fact of the matter is that we are ****ing pax off daily with cancellations and eventually that will show in their “metrics”
Truth. RA was willing to pay for a reliable operation above all else! Our current leadership thinks that’s too expensive and would rather save money and roll the dice on coverage. I wouldn’t have said this a year ago, but they’ve had plenty of time to staff us up properly, and haven’t done it right in certain areas.
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Old 03-14-2023, 06:25 PM
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Truth. RA was willing to pay for a reliable operation above all else! Our current leadership thinks that’s too expensive and would rather save money and roll the dice on coverage. I wouldn’t have said this a year ago, but they’ve had plenty of time to staff us up properly, and haven’t done it right in certain areas.
it’s wild they’re hiring 200 a month and churning them through training for 2 years now and certain categories are still running insanely hot. I guess the VEOP and the MOAD really left their mark for years to come.
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Old 03-14-2023, 06:39 PM
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it’s wild they’re hiring 200 a month and churning them through training for 2 years now and certain categories are still running insanely hot. I guess the VEOP and the MOAD really left their mark for years to come.
No. They are just out pacing staffing with chasing revenue.
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Old 03-14-2023, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Extenda
it’s wild they’re hiring 200 a month and churning them through training for 2 years now and certain categories are still running insanely hot. I guess the VEOP and the MOAD really left their mark for years to come.
More like they're adding flights faster than they can staff them. I feel a song is coming on...

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Old 03-14-2023, 08:51 PM
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No. They are just out pacing staffing with chasing revenue.
This is the new normal.
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Old 03-15-2023, 05:02 AM
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No. They are just out pacing staffing with chasing revenue.
I was trying to allude to that. Just wild how fast it became “we need to do this new flying to make money” as opposed to “we have 6000 more pilots than we need for the flying we have to do”
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Old 03-15-2023, 05:20 AM
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it’s wild they’re hiring 200 a month and churning them through training for 2 years now and certain categories are still running insanely hot. I guess the VEOP and the MOAD really left their mark for years to come.
Yes, crazy times
they are forecasting hot summer, but then possibly low fall/winter with economic downturn.
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Old 03-15-2023, 05:38 AM
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Yes, crazy times
they are forecasting hot summer, but then possibly low fall/winter with economic downturn.
Yep, the recession has been 6 months away for the last two years.

I only hope that there actually is a little bit of a slow down. I have forgotten what adequate reserve coverage looks like.
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Old 03-15-2023, 03:22 PM
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Truth. RA was willing to pay for a reliable operation above all else! Our current leadership thinks that’s too expensive and would rather save money and roll the dice on coverage. I wouldn’t have said this a year ago, but they’ve had plenty of time to staff us up properly, and haven’t done it right in certain areas.
Explain why they can't keep NYC staffed.
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Old 03-15-2023, 03:25 PM
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Yes, crazy times
they are forecasting hot summer, but then possibly low fall/winterwith economic downturn.
MSNBC said the economy is doing splendid

What is this talk of downturn??
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