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Old 01-20-2023, 08:40 AM
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Wrong. Look at LAX350B. There are plenty of senior people happy to spend 15 hours in an airplane flying to the same ONE place (SYD)
"Not everyone." Was I incorrect?
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Old 01-20-2023, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
As I predicted, a giant sucking sound from the top of the ER seats. Lots of 7ERA --> 765A.

And wow did DTW350A go junior (due to pay banding.) Not everyone wants to spend 15 hrs in an airplane to fly to the same 4 places.
how junior did 350A go? Another post said 2007 hires can’t even hold it yet.. or was that sarcasm?
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Old 01-20-2023, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Milksheikh
how junior did 350A go? Another post said 2007 hires can’t even hold it yet.. or was that sarcasm?
Around #3400. Close to NYC 765A.
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Old 01-20-2023, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex
Here’s a question - what’s the benefit of being a top 9,000 number on a NB as an FO? I see these pilots who swap and take all of my good trips/swaps and it makes me so mad. Do y’all just not wanna go to training? Are you scared to make the next step? Pay is mediocre so that’s not keeping you on it. What is it? I know seniority is everything but you are really okay with working your *** off for the lowest pay scale in the company just so you can maybe swap into a better trip on occasion? I needs to rant. I had my dream scheduled all mapped out and I’m 40%. Just had my hopes and dreams crushed by right seat NB “lifers” and now I want answers lol (kidding but not really)!

Edit: I’m referring to the swap board. First PCS run today got me all messed up

Good grief... The entitlement is strong with this one.

"B..b..b..b..b..but seniority isn't faaaiiirrr"

...are really okay with working your *** off...
Hardly.

I would put my hours worked versus pay received up against anyone's, any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. And pay has hardly been mediocre. You or anyone else wants to make yourself junior with an upgrade for more money, or to be able to say "LOOK at my fourth stripe," have at it. I will take my QOL any day. Any vacation desired (pretty much don't work July or August). Any days off. Any holiday off. All weekends off. Most any trip desired. First choice at GS. You're right. Should give all that up to get out of your way. Not.

Or maybe some were stuck in the bottom 10% of the seniority list for 13+ years, and are now enjoying the benefits of seniority that they can finally hold (which under typical circumstances should have been attainable 10 years ago). But many of you have no concept of that, as you have seen nothing but good times, pay raises, super-rapid seniority increases, and 6 month (or less) captain upgrades since hired.

But let me go change my bid preferences so I can get out of your way.

Better yet, I think I will stay put for now so I can "crush your hopes and dreams" as a NB lifer.
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Old 01-20-2023, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
As I predicted, a giant sucking sound from the top of the ER seats. Lots of 7ERA --> 765A.

And wow did DTW350A go junior (due to pay banding.) Not everyone wants to spend 15 hrs in an airplane to fly to the same 4 places.
Dude DTW350 has been going to new hires for months before the AIP. Where have you been

DTW330 also has 10 openings and moved 1500 numbers down to 12500’s.

Y’all are pushing boundaries to force this pay banding bidding narrative after this AE showed nothing other than ER guys will go to the -400
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Old 01-20-2023, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
Dude DTW350 has been going to new hires for months before the AIP. Where have you been

DTW330 also has 10 openings and moved 1500 numbers down to 12500’s.

Y’all are pushing boundaries to force this pay banding bidding narrative after this AE showed nothing other than ER guys will go to the -400
Reread my post. I was specifically referencing A's.

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Old 01-20-2023, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by game
Wrong. Look at LAX350B. There are plenty of senior people happy to spend 15 hours in an airplane flying to the same ONE place (SYD)
We get Auckland this fall.
We did HND and PVG on 777 out of LAX. I bet we get HND back.
SYD is great!
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Old 01-20-2023, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
We get Auckland this fall.
We did HND and PVG on 777 out of LAX. I bet we get HND back.
SYD is great!
Is the global scope going to play into this at all for you? Just curious. Coming off time away and haven’t had a chance to read TA’s yet. Just getting feet wet on some silver slip stuff now…

Are we in good shape going to pacific?
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Old 01-20-2023, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Milksheikh
how junior did 350A go? Another post said 2007 hires can’t even hold it yet.. or was that sarcasm?
I'm a 1998 hire and I can't hold it.
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Old 01-20-2023, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bainite
I'm a 1998 hire and I can't hold it.

25 years currently to hold true (330/350/767-400) WB A. That is coming down but it’ll take a few more years. Looking like ~15 years seniority for 2014 hires in about 6-7 years.
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