Alaska TA Passes- Joining UPS as first movers
10-17-2022, 01:03 PM
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Alaska TA Passes- Joining UPS as first movers
Alaska, who’s contract substantially lagged the Big 4, made large gains in QOL and compensation.
-Union Control of Rotation Construction
-150%-200% premium pay for Re-Routes
-Introduction of PBS
-Long Call - 14 hours
-Training Day- 5 Hours
- 14.9/4/4 compensation bump
This contract was about moving their QOL up to the Big 4 and in a few areas they surpassed us. Previously, they severely lagged the industry in pay, their new 2022 rate is 7.4% above our current PWA(73N). 14.9% raise was not enough to match inflation during the period between their last contract.
Passed 82% based on substantial gains relative to their previous PWA.
Will the Big 4 also make substantial gains to QOL?
Discuss…..
-Union Control of Rotation Construction
-150%-200% premium pay for Re-Routes
-Introduction of PBS
-Long Call - 14 hours
-Training Day- 5 Hours
- 14.9/4/4 compensation bump
This contract was about moving their QOL up to the Big 4 and in a few areas they surpassed us. Previously, they severely lagged the industry in pay, their new 2022 rate is 7.4% above our current PWA(73N). 14.9% raise was not enough to match inflation during the period between their last contract.
Passed 82% based on substantial gains relative to their previous PWA.
Will the Big 4 also make substantial gains to QOL?
Discuss…..
10-17-2022, 01:30 PM
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Not a chance. Retro is a joke. They’re moving to PBS which is a huge concession and a large productive gain for the company. With that in mind, all they could gin up is 14.9/4/4? Like I said. Well I’ve changed my mind. Huge smelly turd…
10-17-2022, 01:31 PM
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I'll pass on the smelly soft turd that spreads well on a cracker like Roquefort cheese. No thanks. Besides, Jerry said a 43 % increase with retro is coming any day now.
10-17-2022, 01:36 PM
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Yes turd odor and consistency matters.
If the UAL TA would have passed as it was we would all be screwed. Alaska guys have raised the bar nicely in a few QOL areas - Holiday pay, 14 hour long call, 5 hours training pay and some others. It might be a turd based solely on pay rates but Alaska always lagged us and now they lead us so we can at least build on their TA. Oh yeah - I thought QOL was paramount this cycle? This discussion make me wonder who does # 2 really work for? I also don't think those rate would pass here but we should be able to beat those rates.
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10-17-2022, 01:41 PM
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Yes turd odor and consistency matters. If the UAL TA would have passed as it was we would all be screwed. Alaska guys have raised the bar nicely in a few QOL areas - Holiday pay, 14 hour long call, 5 hours training pay and some others. It might be a turd based solely on pay rates but Alaska always lagged us and now they lead us so we can at least build on their TA. Oh yeah - I thought QOL was paramount this cycle? This discussion make me wonder who does # 2 really work for?
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If the UAL TA would have passed as it was we would all be screwed. Alaska guys have raised the bar nicely in a few QOL areas - Holiday pay, 14 hour long call, 5 hours training pay and some others. It might be a turd based solely on pay rates but Alaska always lagged us and now they lead us so we can at least build on their TA. Oh yeah - I thought QOL was paramount this cycle? This discussion make me wonder who does # 2 really work for? Scoop
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