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They have hired a ton of instructors over the last year. A lot of non SLI as well. They pick up sim events too.
That’s not to say there won’t be more hiring especially on the larger growing fleets.
So I would guess there are events needing coverage but that they find the coverage unless it’s an event that requires a PCP/DGP or APD. Those can go uncovered when they’re at very unattractive times, but then again they may be upgrading a lot of SLIs to PCPs.
Simulator and instructor schedules are all on Deltanet. Basically training is like crew resources, if there is a fire (short staffing) they’ll focus on putting the fire out. Don’t plan on green slips 4ever or 20-25 sim events a month.
I know they hired warm bodies last year that had been turned down in previous interviews. Now once they have staffing pipeline improved, they can get rid of them if they did not pan out (bad student and observer reviews) and hire some better quality new hires who are hitting the min time threshold or recently retired (looking at you ex LCA).
You are not paid to commute in and out.
Instructors fly 4 months a year, they bid for the months, those fly months can be taken back or extra fly months forced on them. Not uncommon for people to go months without flying or keep being sent to fly when they want to be in the sim.
Btw the 220 I think is the most difficult gig given the jet is not in ATL. They also have very little training right now with the slow arrival of new jets and guys not bidding off at the predicted rate. That’s just an observation on my part I was not a 220 instructor.
That’s not to say there won’t be more hiring especially on the larger growing fleets.
So I would guess there are events needing coverage but that they find the coverage unless it’s an event that requires a PCP/DGP or APD. Those can go uncovered when they’re at very unattractive times, but then again they may be upgrading a lot of SLIs to PCPs.
Simulator and instructor schedules are all on Deltanet. Basically training is like crew resources, if there is a fire (short staffing) they’ll focus on putting the fire out. Don’t plan on green slips 4ever or 20-25 sim events a month.
I know they hired warm bodies last year that had been turned down in previous interviews. Now once they have staffing pipeline improved, they can get rid of them if they did not pan out (bad student and observer reviews) and hire some better quality new hires who are hitting the min time threshold or recently retired (looking at you ex LCA).
You are not paid to commute in and out.
Instructors fly 4 months a year, they bid for the months, those fly months can be taken back or extra fly months forced on them. Not uncommon for people to go months without flying or keep being sent to fly when they want to be in the sim.
Btw the 220 I think is the most difficult gig given the jet is not in ATL. They also have very little training right now with the slow arrival of new jets and guys not bidding off at the predicted rate. That’s just an observation on my part I was not a 220 instructor.
Thanks for the detailed response. This was very informative. Last question: If a SLI loses his medical and have to use LTD can he still keep the job as an instructor for an additional income?
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Slight clarification on paid commutes. You DO sorta get paid for the DH from ATL MIA, the same will be true for SLC. They are telling us (73) the SLC facility will be running by end of 2024.
Can't speak to other fleets but 73 will be using Miami for indefinite future.
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Sorta. You can get hired by DPS (formerly DGS) while on disability. Know a few
Slight clarification on paid commutes. You DO sorta get paid for the DH from ATL MIA, the same will be true for SLC. They are telling us (73) the SLC facility will be running by end of 2024.
Can't speak to other fleets but 73 will be using Miami for indefinite future.
Slight clarification on paid commutes. You DO sorta get paid for the DH from ATL MIA, the same will be true for SLC. They are telling us (73) the SLC facility will be running by end of 2024.
Can't speak to other fleets but 73 will be using Miami for indefinite future.
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Sorta. You can get hired by DPS (formerly DGS) while on disability. Know a few
Slight clarification on paid commutes. You DO sorta get paid for the DH from ATL MIA, the same will be true for SLC. They are telling us (73) the SLC facility will be running by end of 2024.
Can't speak to other fleets but 73 will be using Miami for indefinite future.
Slight clarification on paid commutes. You DO sorta get paid for the DH from ATL MIA, the same will be true for SLC. They are telling us (73) the SLC facility will be running by end of 2024.
Can't speak to other fleets but 73 will be using Miami for indefinite future.
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it may vary somewhat based on fleet,.but on the 73 side it will not be separate.
That said, there are folks who spend the majority of their time in Miami. I'm sure that will also be true for SLC. Just realized you'll also visit ATL.
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