What Is Full Retro
10-03-2022, 06:09 PM
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We don't need their help. The RLA process will play itself out and we will go to self help. A single senator can filibuster a Congressional solution. They already said they were going to let the railroad workers strike. And they still might after the election.
https://www.railwayage.com/regulator...rail-shutdown/
https://www.railwayage.com/regulator...rail-shutdown/
The NMB is literally the gate keeper to a release. So yes you do. Congressional action doesn’t matter if an impasse is never declared.
10-03-2022, 06:21 PM
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We don't need their help. The RLA process will play itself out and we will go to self help. A single senator can filibuster a Congressional solution. They already said they were going to let the railroad workers strike. And they still might after the election.
https://www.railwayage.com/regulator...rail-shutdown/
https://www.railwayage.com/regulator...rail-shutdown/
“With hope for an agreement but concern for the challenges that a strike would present, Congress stood ready to take action. Congress under the Commerce Clause of the Constitution has the authority and responsibility to ensure the uninterrupted operation of essential transportation services and has in the past enacted legislation for such purposes. Led by the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, the House prepared and had reviewed legislation, so that we would be ready to act, pursuant to Section 10 of the Railway Labor Act.
“Thankfully this action may not be necessary. We congratulate the unions and railroads for coming to an agreement, because it is in the national interest that essential transportation services be maintained.”
10-03-2022, 09:13 PM
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The report of a tentative agreement between railroads represented by labor unions and the National Carriers’ Conference Committee is good news for our nation’s economy, our security and the well-being of the American people. I commend President Biden for his personal involvement and insistence on resolution and especially Labor Secretary Marty Walsh for leading the negotiations. I congratulate both parties for coming to terms that will avoid a strike and take a positive step forward in terms of respecting workers’ rights. I also want to commend the representatives of the labor unions who wouldn’t leave the table without achieving justice for their workers.
“With hope for an agreement but concern for the challenges that a strike would present, Congress stood ready to take action. Congress under the Commerce Clause of the Constitution has the authority and responsibility to ensure the uninterrupted operation of essential transportation services and has in the past enacted legislation for such purposes. Led by the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, the House prepared and had reviewed legislation, so that we would be ready to act, pursuant to Section 10 of the Railway Labor Act.
“Thankfully this action may not be necessary. We congratulate the unions and railroads for coming to an agreement, because it is in the national interest that essential transportation services be maintained.”
“With hope for an agreement but concern for the challenges that a strike would present, Congress stood ready to take action. Congress under the Commerce Clause of the Constitution has the authority and responsibility to ensure the uninterrupted operation of essential transportation services and has in the past enacted legislation for such purposes. Led by the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, the House prepared and had reviewed legislation, so that we would be ready to act, pursuant to Section 10 of the Railway Labor Act.
“Thankfully this action may not be necessary. We congratulate the unions and railroads for coming to an agreement, because it is in the national interest that essential transportation services be maintained.”
Is your point that they aren't a threat to strike or that Congress won't let them?
They’re in a question-and-answer period. Then followed by voting for 21 days which will push this well past the midterm elections but we as the largest user of the rail system remain extremely concerned about the potential impact of a strike.
Republican Richard Burr sought unanimous consent for a resolution that would force the two sides to accept the recommendations of a presidential emergency board established by President Joe Biden. That would require agreement from all senators, and Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont, objected, arguing freight rail workers need better sick leave.
10-04-2022, 03:44 AM
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True, for a consent resolution they need everyone. They would have had to pass legislation to get around Bernie. The Legislation was written and ready to go.
10-04-2022, 05:28 AM
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And all the rhetoric was to keep members from having to actually vote against labor. They succeeded in not having to upset the base.
10-04-2022, 02:51 PM
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Nobody needs to know the EXACT table positions in order to gauge the likelihood of a release.
Let’s just assume that the table position is in line with those hints.
Jan 2020 through August 2022 inflation is 15%
assume a nominal raise request above inflation of 5%
the retirement increase is approximately 9%
That would be a 29% increase on signing.
Does anyone really think that the board will look at that and decide to grant us an impasse anytime soon?
Let’s just assume that the table position is in line with those hints.
Jan 2020 through August 2022 inflation is 15%
assume a nominal raise request above inflation of 5%
the retirement increase is approximately 9%
That would be a 29% increase on signing.
Does anyone really think that the board will look at that and decide to grant us an impasse anytime soon?
the board will never decide to give us any raises. Why would they?
10-04-2022, 03:38 PM
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Thats not what I said at all. We are in a positive negotiating environment, and they absolutely will put pressure on the company to give us “reasonable” (in their definition) increases. The problem is what the board would see as reasonable doesn’t stand a chance of being ratified based on current pilot expectations.
10-04-2022, 03:43 PM
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Thats not what I said at all. We are in a positive negotiating environment, and they absolutely will put pressure on the company to give us “reasonable” (in their definition) increases. The problem is what the board would see as reasonable doesn’t stand a chance of being ratified based on current pilot expectations.
10-04-2022, 04:10 PM
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10-04-2022, 04:39 PM
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They do just a bit more than that and deciding when to release the parties to self help is a critical issue. In addition the mediators recommendations will carry great weight with a PEB should we be released.
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