A350-1000 and other Fleet News
09-02-2023, 10:37 AM
#891
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Just look at all of the TravelNet pop ups for payload optimization and you will get an idea where we need lift. In the end, it's all about the Bemjamins though.
09-02-2023, 01:48 PM
#893
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Position: 330 B
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We need the lift for SYD (x2 now), JNB, CPT (recent non-stop addition), AKL (next month) and BOM if/when that restarts. That extra lift gives the flexibility of moving the 359 into routes where the 339 struggles.
Just look at all of the TravelNet pop ups for payload optimization and you will get an idea where we need lift. In the end, it's all about the Bemjamins though.
Just look at all of the TravelNet pop ups for payload optimization and you will get an idea where we need lift. In the end, it's all about the Bemjamins though.
09-02-2023, 02:10 PM
#894
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: 350A
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We need the lift for SYD (x2 now), JNB, CPT (recent non-stop addition), AKL (next month) and BOM if/when that restarts. That extra lift gives the flexibility of moving the 359 into routes where the 339 struggles.
Just look at all of the TravelNet pop ups for payload optimization and you will get an idea where we need lift. In the end, it's all about the Bemjamins though.
Just look at all of the TravelNet pop ups for payload optimization and you will get an idea where we need lift. In the end, it's all about the Bemjamins though.
09-02-2023, 03:37 PM
#895
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I follow your logic, but the 339 doesn't really struggle anywhere that Im aware of. We don't really use it to its full advertised performance anyway. It's the A359 that appears to struggle on some routes. For those, I agree the A35K seems like a rather obvious choice. What I dont understand regarding the engine mx being the holdup for the order; don't we already do the engine mx on the Trents for the 350? Didn't that come with the initial order? I know the -1000 uses a higher thrust version but is it that different that we need to negotiate another MRO deal with RR?
09-02-2023, 04:04 PM
#896
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I wonder if TLV would be a decent market for the -1000 out of Kennedy. It’s a lot of plane but seems to be a high yielding route. Wouldn’t mind JFK-ICN on our metal either. I’d like the next order to be 339/359/351…
09-02-2023, 04:06 PM
#897
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Position: retired 767(dl)
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CV-880 true story, C.E. sent Dolson and Ball to California to buy Electras, Lockheed told them "Get in line." They had cash with no place to go. Saw an ad for the "Golden Arrow" and went over to Convair to enquire. The rest as they say is history, Delta was in the jet age by default. (Don't know for sure, but I think whiskey was involved.)
09-02-2023, 05:37 PM
#898
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Piecing it together , short term I imagine we see 339s , some -1000s and then maybe a year to two down the road the order to replace the ER/400. 787 very much in the discussion.
The spree of ER issues could accelerate some decisions as of late.
09-02-2023, 06:39 PM
#899
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Boeing has been pushing the 777x initially. It’s too much airplane for us according to the decision makers. Even with the wing fold, the aircraft would have gating issues at the places we would intend to operate out of I’m being told. A quick glance shows nearly identical wingspan for the -1000 so either way we would need to accommodate either jet. Honestly as others have pointed out it makes way more sense to get the -1000 due to the small numbers we require fleet wise.
Piecing it together , short term I imagine we see 339s , some -1000s and then maybe a year to two down the road the order to replace the ER/400. 787 very much in the discussion.
The spree of ER issues could accelerate some decisions as of late.
Piecing it together , short term I imagine we see 339s , some -1000s and then maybe a year to two down the road the order to replace the ER/400. 787 very much in the discussion.
The spree of ER issues could accelerate some decisions as of late.
Maybe we can be the launch customer for the 787x with side stick
.I’m actually shocked we haven’t talked Boeing into building a passenger variant on their active 767 line.
09-02-2023, 08:29 PM
#900
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CV-880 true story, C.E. sent Dolson and Ball to California to buy Electras, Lockheed told them "Get in line." They had cash with no place to go. Saw an ad for the "Golden Arrow" and went over to Convair to enquire. The rest as they say is history, Delta was in the jet age by default. (Don't know for sure, but I think whiskey was involved.)
I was looking at the stats for a CV880 and it amazes me how close in dimensions it is to a 739, but more than double the fuel capacity, 2/3 the passengers, twice the motors, 3/4 the range. Didn’t know Delta sold “Lisa Marie” to Elvis until I looked up the wiki article.
I’m most impressed with the “in-cockpit” PA volume control. (Pedestal, lower left) General Dynamics surely ahead of their time!
Fuel gauge above the radar looks a little… basic.
