tennisguru

I have a feeling that come ~2030 the 737s will be picking up the majority of the 717 routes as that fleet eventually phases out.

PilotBases

Nah embraer will come in with a screaming deal on the E2 and it’ll be too good to turn down, fleer complexity be damned

marcal

This seems accurate. The 321NEO is picking up a lot of transcon work out of SEA, LAX, and SAN to the east coast. In addition, hearing rumors of 8x daily JFK-LAX on the 321NEO when we get the transcon lie flat seats. Should start in early 2024.

tcco94

The LAX-JFK transcon route going to all 321neos seems like a stretch. The 757 lie flat didn’t even do that, it was always exclusively heavy metal from ER’s, 764, 330s which is what is happening right now. I believe more so the SFO and SEA-JFK/BOS is more what you’re thinking about those 757 lie flats. I think some people on this forum that are so giddy up about the neos are just going to easily plug and play the longest biggest routes of the networking while forgetting that if you eliminated all our LAX-JFK transcons (with less seats) you also would blow up the networking of trip builds on other fleets. There’s going to be a lot logistics into this and I think it’s a bit over ambitious to say all of our airplanes on one of the worlds most profitable routes is going to a 321neo…

take a look at the LAX-HNL route. 1 1/2 months it was 2/3 on neos and now back to 2/3 ERs because so much out of base Hawaii ER flying was poorly inefficiently built.

tcco94

this x1000!

nothing is plug and play at this airline. Plus we still need performance improvements on neos to do Latin America that it can’t do and replace the 757 with. Yet. Maybe someday if delta actually invested in something other than the bare bones basic models. Kind of like not buying LR’s or XLR’s but people are convinced our basic neos are going to Europe.

Although I’ve been told we could still switch future orders to LR’s or better. Would be a nice investment imo.

contrails

Anything that is 4+ hours in length that was a 757-200 that does not absolutely require a 757-200 for performance (~3 airports?) will be a 321NEO and/or later a 737MAX with the exception of flights that revenue management wants to be larger airplane such as a 767-400 at a higher demand time.

But again, 757-200s will not be used for long flights with long runways any more, NEO/MAX delivery schedule pending. +10,000 pound difference in fuel burn over a transcon.

tcco94

lax-jfk is not on a 757. Nor was it.

like I said in my comment that route has been and currently is flown by 76ER, 764, 330

Your comment is also just not correct. We work at Delta where networking will swap fleets like candy. Then people get upset when they see a neo doing short stage length flights because you think a 321neo is classified for 1 specific thing and that’s all the long haul transcon and Hawaii flying you specifically want it to do.

Never get attached to a route being on an airplane here. We are not that airline. It changes monthly, hell sometimes daily and weekly.

gloopy

Ima let you finish, but the A321/739 is the greatest 757 of all time!

Meme In Command

That's meme page worthy good sir/ma'am

Planetrain

Is that Paris air show over?