Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
A350-1000 and other Fleet News >

A350-1000 and other Fleet News

Search

Notices

A350-1000 and other Fleet News

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-19-2023, 08:06 PM
  #681  
Gets Weekends Off
 
crazyjaydawg's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: Middle Seat
Posts: 1,228
Default

Originally Posted by Big E 757
Today was the first day of the Paris Airshow, wasn’t it? Isn’t it a week or so long?
Yes; however, no American carriers made a splash today because markets were closed in the US.

Tomorrow is expected to be Boeing day for announcements.

If Delta announces during Paris, it will be Wednesday morning.

My sources say there are still details being worked out as of two weeks ago regarding engine overhaul rights and delivery slots, but the talks are/were very active. Sounds like not a matter of if, but when.

I also heard that Delta drags their feet on “board approval” and plays hard ball over 6 month delivery windows and by the time they come back, that window has moved to right by 12-18 months! It’s a seller’s market for sure.
crazyjaydawg is offline  
Old 06-20-2023, 10:26 AM
  #682  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2020
Posts: 278
Default

Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
Yes; however, no American carriers made a splash today because markets were closed in the US.

Tomorrow is expected to be Boeing day for announcements.

If Delta announces during Paris, it will be Wednesday morning.

My sources say there are still details being worked out as of two weeks ago regarding engine overhaul rights and delivery slots, but the talks are/were very active. Sounds like not a matter of if, but when.

I also heard that Delta drags their feet on “board approval” and plays hard ball over 6 month delivery windows and by the time they come back, that window has moved to right by 12-18 months! It’s a seller’s market for sure.
This is all spot on! Delta board very conservative regarding deals (this is good and bad).
GeneralLee is offline  
Old 06-20-2023, 11:02 AM
  #683  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 2,383
Default

Originally Posted by GeneralLee
This is all spot on! Delta board very conservative regarding deals (this is good and bad).
I appreciate the board being thorough, but 2023 has been a very good year for the A350-1000. Might have had better luck with pricing and slots six months ago.
PilotBases is offline  
Old 06-20-2023, 11:05 AM
  #684  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2020
Posts: 278
Default

Originally Posted by PilotBases
I appreciate the board being thorough, but 2023 has been a very good year for the A350-1000. Might have had better luck with pricing and slots six months ago.
I fully agree!
GeneralLee is offline  
Old 06-20-2023, 11:19 AM
  #685  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 2,383
Default

Originally Posted by GeneralLee
I fully agree!
On the flipside, A330neo still lagging while 787 knocking away orders, makes me hopeful we stick with the Trash Panda Jr.
PilotBases is offline  
Old 06-20-2023, 03:50 PM
  #686  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Tinpusher007's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 330 B
Posts: 1,622
Default

Originally Posted by PilotBases
On the flipside, A330neo still lagging while 787 knocking away orders, makes me hopeful we stick with the Trash Panda Jr.
Thats probably a safe bet. They have said the A330 is the 767 replacement. Actually at one town hall they said A330 and A350. I dont think we are going to see a one for one replacement of the 767-300s, but rather a replacement of that capacity. A330 fleet will be around 80 frames when all current deliveries are taken and they've said the total 350 fleet will be in excess of 60 frames, so IF that plays out Id expect 61.
Tinpusher007 is offline  
Old 06-20-2023, 06:37 PM
  #687  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: LAX ER
Posts: 1,606
Default

Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
Thats probably a safe bet. They have said the A330 is the 767 replacement. Actually at one town hall they said A330 and A350. I dont think we are going to see a one for one replacement of the 767-300s, but rather a replacement of that capacity. A330 fleet will be around 80 frames when all current deliveries are taken and they've said the total 350 fleet will be in excess of 60 frames, so IF that plays out Id expect 61.
If we don’t see a 1 for 1 replacement for the 767 then we are moving the wrong way for international again.
tcco94 is offline  
Old 06-20-2023, 09:11 PM
  #688  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: MD-88 FO
Posts: 1,571
Default

Originally Posted by tcco94
If we don’t see a 1 for 1 replacement for the 767 then we are moving the wrong way for international again.
that’s not 100% accurate. The 767-300 does a bit of domestic hours. Those hours could be covered by single aisle planes thus meaning we would need fewer wb replacements to cover the international stuff. Not really going backwards on the pure international flying.
Myfingershurt is offline  
Old 06-20-2023, 11:13 PM
  #689  
Has a furrowed brow
 
Wolf424's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 1,201
Default

Originally Posted by Myfingershurt
that’s not 100% accurate. The 767-300 does a bit of domestic hours. Those hours could be covered by single aisle planes thus meaning we would need fewer wb replacements to cover the international stuff. Not really going backwards on the pure international flying.
“A bit” is even a stretch when you consider many times it’s flying domestic to position to go international (CVG, RDU, PDX, MSP, SLC, etc).
Wolf424 is offline  
Old 06-21-2023, 01:26 AM
  #690  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 2,383
Default

Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
Thats probably a safe bet. They have said the A330 is the 767 replacement. Actually at one town hall they said A330 and A350. I dont think we are going to see a one for one replacement of the 767-300s, but rather a replacement of that capacity. A330 fleet will be around 80 frames when all current deliveries are taken and they've said the total 350 fleet will be in excess of 60 frames, so IF that plays out Id expect 61.
We’ve got 45 763s. A good few are doing JFK-LAX every day as well as some ATL hops. Still would need 30 or so widebodies to replace them, if we assume maybe a handful of current orders are replacements rather than growth, and some of the D1 config 321neos take over the D1 763 transcons to a point.
PilotBases is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices