A350-1000 and other Fleet News
04-22-2023, 11:09 AM
#561
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Position: Supreme Allied Commander
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Huh? United and American fly it regularly:
That's American from JFK.
And here is United from Newark. Air India also flies the route too.
United and American are profit making enterprises too, I would only imagine they are flying the route because it's profitable for them. All that no operation area over Afghanistan and Pakistan are only below FL260. Southern Saudi Arabia is only below 10,000.
That's American from JFK.And here is United from Newark. Air India also flies the route too.
United and American are profit making enterprises too, I would only imagine they are flying the route because it's profitable for them. All that no operation area over Afghanistan and Pakistan are only below FL260. Southern Saudi Arabia is only below 10,000.
04-22-2023, 11:34 AM
#562
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
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India can be reached from the unrestricted direction too …. if only we had an Asian hub with amazing rights to fly within and beyond. “We”were 1 leg from connecting a circle around the world at one point ( KUL-BOM). If that’s not feasible, I’m thinking we can “thread the needle” through hot zones and serve India like others do.
04-22-2023, 12:44 PM
#563
seeing the large hubs...
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: 73N A
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I don't see what you're getting at, but here you go. A US carrier doesn't fly to Mumbai, but here's a route that avoids any "No fly Area" zones in FD Pro. We already fly JFK-TLV, so it's easy to just fly over TLV, head down the Arabian peninsula, then over the Indian Ocean.
04-22-2023, 01:40 PM
#564
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I don't see what you're getting at, but here you go. A US carrier doesn't fly to Mumbai, but here's a route that avoids any "No fly Area" zones in FD Pro. We already fly JFK-TLV, so it's easy to just fly over TLV, head down the Arabian peninsula, then over the Indian Ocean.
04-22-2023, 04:03 PM
#565
seeing the large hubs...
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Only below 10,000 ft. It doesn't cross the Sinai peninsula, the Red Sea, or Somalia anyway. Yemen is fine to cross too.
04-22-2023, 06:23 PM
#566
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 82
Keep in mind with that route you might get into trouble with overflight permits. Back in my corporate flying days if we had to overfly Riyadh FIR we had to avoid Israeli airspace and come down Sinai and go around it. Even if just going to Amman. It added quite a bit of flight time. Similarly going into Tel Aviv we had to avoid the airspace of some Arabic countries.
04-22-2023, 10:00 PM
#567
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 130
Keep in mind with that route you might get into trouble with overflight permits. Back in my corporate flying days if we had to overfly Riyadh FIR we had to avoid Israeli airspace and come down Sinai and go around it. Even if just going to Amman. It added quite a bit of flight time. Similarly going into Tel Aviv we had to avoid the airspace of some Arabic countries.
04-23-2023, 03:37 AM
#568
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Joined APC: Apr 2023
Posts: 3
Abraham accords and flyovers
That is correct Arvik.
With the signing of the Abraham Accords, many of the previous fly over bans were lifted.
This is great news and it cuts down quite a bit on flights to/from Europe and North America.
Great success!
With the signing of the Abraham Accords, many of the previous fly over bans were lifted.
This is great news and it cuts down quite a bit on flights to/from Europe and North America.
Great success!
04-23-2023, 06:22 AM
#569
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,902
India can be reached from the unrestricted direction too …. if only we had an Asian hub with amazing rights to fly within and beyond. “We”were 1 leg from connecting a circle around the world at one point ( KUL-BOM). If that’s not feasible, I’m thinking we can “thread the needle” through hot zones and serve India like others do.
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