BigHitterLlama

Am I the only one that found the example of a 5,000 hour BH shortage resulting in only 16 WB positions pretty depressing?

tennisguru

It beats a $300 check…

notEnuf

Where did these numbers come from?

5000/16=312.5. Each block hour requires 3 crew members so each pilot position was valued at 312.5x3? So how many WB pilots block 937.5 per year?

BigHitterLlama

I believe it was over 8 quarters but I still don’t like that math. I want to say it was the GS road show but it could have been the NN. Leaning towards the road show.

BigHitterLlama

Mostly agree. I just must have set my expectations unrealistically for how many jobs the remediation would produce.

Planetrain

These are the remediation steps:

“To establish the number of pilot jobs that must be remediated, the BH shortfall which caused a violation in a measurement period must first be determined. The number of BHs are converted into a monthly average by dividing the total shortfall by the number of bid periods in the violation period. This monthly average shortfall is then converted to a monthly average pilot hour shortfall by multiplying the BH shortfall by 4. This allows remediation to assume a full augmented crew (two Captains and two First Officers) on all flights. That result is divided by 53, which is the historical number of BHs per bid period, per widebody pilot. This results in the total number of “remediated positions”.

Next, the average level of staffing over and above the Section 22 C. staffing formula requirements during the measurement period is calculated. This is done on a percentage basis, for both summer and non-summer staffing periods, to capture the additional positions that exist due to historical excess staffing. For example, if, in the applicable measurement period, the A350 Captain position is overstaffed relative to the staffing formula by an average of 4% in non-summer months, then the baseline level of staffing before any remediation is added during non-summer months would be the staffing formula required headcount, plus 4%.
As BHs increase or aircraft are added, this increase is captured in the Section 22 C. staffing formula, and thus an increased number of pilots are required under the existing formula. Remediated positions (along with the historical level of overstaffing) must then be added “on top of” required staffing per the formula, and are not absorbed into existing pilot growth.

To meet these increased staffing requirements, the Company must add staffing in either the A350, A330, or 767-400 (or any other aircraft which pays the top pay rate) via an Advanced Entitlement bid to meet the increased staffing requirements. The Company must continue to maintain those additional positions throughout the remediation period, and may do so with additional AE bids.
Such remediation must remain in place for 24 months, starting in the first bid period following six full bid periods after the quarter in which there was a BH shortfall. All pilots added due to remediation requirements must be converted into their new categories by this deadline to be in compliance with the provisions of the Global Scope LOA.”

Planetrain

Not sure where your example is from, but that would be 5,000 hours over roughly 24 months, or a systemwide deficit of only 208hr/month. (What is that, less that one flight a day?). That’s why it looks low.

5,000/24*4/53=15.7 pilots

bugman61

Something must be lost in translation for his example, as global scope values block hours at 53 per month, per crew (4 pilots).

A 5000 block hour shortage over a year would result in 32 pilot jobs (5000 / 12 / 53, round up, multiply by 4).

notEnuf

So the numbers are wrong. I was wondering where the example was given and if it was accurate prior to voting because I didn't see this example or any example. I see now my assumption of 3 crew and 12 months was wrong.

BigHitterLlama

33 minutes into GS roadshow.
It’s all about the right perspective. One flight a day resulting in 16 more WB jobs is actually solid. My eyes were probably glazed over until he finished mathing and announced the answer was 16.