A350-1000 and other Fleet News
02-01-2023, 02:48 PM
#362
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There is talk of Boeing increasing MTOW of both the 787-9 and -10; the latter gaining similar range of a 777-200ER, which would still fall way short of the A35K. But a 787-9 with even more range than the current model would seem to be able to fly almost any city pair we currently have and then some; albeit with far less payload than the A35K. Given the financial turmoil that RR is currently in there is probably a floor in pricing that they simply cant go below. Id imagine the cost of paying what they require has got to be less than opening up a new fleet of Boeings, especially after we just parked 777s which would have allowed some training cost synergies. But then again, this is Delta Air Lines.
02-01-2023, 02:53 PM
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First off, I don’t think we’re getting 777X.
However, everything I’ve seen indicates similar fuel efficiency per seat. So then it comes down to CAPEX. If the 787 is in the mix then the 777X should be as well. The 787 has a large order book. So does the 350. The 777X has a relatively thin order book. The company is good at negotiating deals in that space. Food for thought.
However, everything I’ve seen indicates similar fuel efficiency per seat. So then it comes down to CAPEX. If the 787 is in the mix then the 777X should be as well. The 787 has a large order book. So does the 350. The 777X has a relatively thin order book. The company is good at negotiating deals in that space. Food for thought.
02-01-2023, 03:00 PM
#365
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There is talk of Boeing increasing MTOW of both the 787-9 and -10; the latter gaining similar range of a 777-200ER, which would still fall way short of the A35K. But a 787-9 with even more range than the current model would seem to be able to fly almost any city pair we currently have and then some; albeit with far less payload than the A35K. Given the financial turmoil that RR is currently in there is probably a floor in pricing that they simply cant go below. Id imagine the cost of paying what they require has got to be less than opening up a new fleet of Boeings, especially after we just parked 777s which would have allowed some training cost synergies. But then again, this is Delta Air Lines.
02-01-2023, 03:06 PM
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You might say. But the A330CEOs do still need to be retired probably by 2030 themselves. And some markets that can be up gauged from the 767-300/400 are probably a good fit for the A339 which is more medium haul than really long haul. In our domestic fleet, the 739 and 321 are very similar in the same way, but the company seems to favor sourcing from both MFRs. I have asked why the same strategy hasn't really been employed for wide bodies and never really got a straight answer.
02-01-2023, 03:13 PM
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02-01-2023, 03:20 PM
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You are correct; I didnt research the dates before posting. But with the first one arriving in 2003, Id think after 27 years flying the company would at least be thinking about what would replace them at that point. My point was in a theoretical world where we did take 787s and the A339s appeared redundant, they could fill the eventual role of being A330 ceo replacements.
