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Old 10-16-2024, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
There are 2 in each of Spring/Fall, so every standards pilot can attend without taking them all out of action for 2 days, plus travel.
I know. We discussed the pilot hiring projections here on APC based on the recent meeting. The delayed response from Trip made me feel like there was another one. I guess this information is coming out just now?
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Old 10-16-2024, 01:56 PM
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I know. We discussed the pilot hiring projections here on APC based on the recent meeting. The delayed response from Trip made me feel like there was another one. I guess this information is coming out just now?
Read it a little closer. Fall has 2 meetings and spring has 2 meetings. So the second fall meeting just took place.
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Read it a little closer. Fall has 2 meetings and spring has 2 meetings. So the second fall meeting just took place.
Thanks! I’ll get back to huked on fonix now
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Old 10-16-2024, 02:28 PM
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Thanks! I’ll get back to huked on fonix now
LOL, nice…!
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LOL, nice…!
it worked for me
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Old 10-16-2024, 10:08 PM
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Ha exactly. I remember when I was on the ER and those dang Airbus people were “stealing” our Hawaii flying. Then they announce that the ER has no place in Seattle and we all have to find new homes. So off to fifi, only for the high-ups to discover the shocking revelation that the NEO doesn’t have the performance to do Hawaii in the winter.

Now those dang 757 pilots are stealing our flying.
The NEO seems to do pretty fine from what I’ve seen. I’ve done a lot of Hawai’i the past 2 years. Zero issue off of KOA and HNL. OGG has been mostly fine. They usually block 10ish seats off of Kauai, but could probably sell them on most days. You can buy a lot of economy seats for 2000-2500 gallons worth of fuel savings per flight

There of course was the one week in January of 2023 when we still used the 310 knots single engine performance table which created a few tech stops. Those went away as soon as performance engineering got their stuff together. The lead LCAs were surprised by the change this upcoming winter. Seems to be more of a weird network thing from what they’ve said.

Your statement seems more rooted in 757 fanboy than actual truth. I have had zero issues in the last two years aside from the company blocking 10ish off Lihue, which I don’t even think they were doing for the first six months plus. The Duke’s bartenders knew me by name in the winter of 2023
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Originally Posted by Jonny Drama
The NEO seems to do pretty fine from what I’ve seen. I’ve done a lot of Hawai’i the past 2 years. Zero issue off of KOA and HNL. OGG has been mostly fine. They usually block 10ish seats off of Kauai, but could probably sell them on most days. You can buy a lot of economy seats for 2000-2500 gallons worth of fuel savings per flight

There of course was the one week in January of 2023 when we still used the 310 knots single engine performance table which created a few tech stops. Those went away as soon as performance engineering got their stuff together. The lead LCAs were surprised by the change this upcoming winter. Seems to be more of a weird network thing from what they’ve said.

Your statement seems more rooted in 757 fanboy than actual truth. I have had zero issues in the last two years aside from the company blocking 10ish off Lihue, which I don’t even think they were doing for the first six months plus. The Duke’s bartenders knew me by name in the winter of 2023
Seriously Clark?? From the September LA base visit:

“Why are the Hawaii flights going back to the 757?”

”We had so much difficulty with the winds last year that PE(Engineering) and the OCC requested that we shift back to the 757….”

I personally had a flight where we kicked 40 revenue pax off a Kona flight due to high headwinds. And that was January 2024 not 2023. Super glad you had no issues though.

Why don’t you go tell engineering and OCC about their fandom.
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Old 10-16-2024, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
Seriously Clark?? From the September LA base visit:

“Why are the Hawaii flights going back to the 757?”

”We had so much difficulty with the winds last year that PE(Engineering) and the OCC requested that we shift back to the 757….”

I personally had a flight where we kicked 40 revenue pax off a Kona flight due to high headwinds. And that was January 2024 not 2023. Super glad you had no issues though.

Why don’t you go tell engineering and OCC about their fandom.
40 rev packs off a KOA flight, there must be more to this story than just strong winds. It’s really curious that they didn’t request it after the winter of 23 when there were actual tech stops for one week. I’ve had a pretty good pulse on all of the Hawai’i flying the past two years since that’s the majority of what all of me and the guys I flew with had been doing. I’ve never heard of anything like what you speak of until tonight. Weird.
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Old 10-16-2024, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonny Drama
40 rev packs off a KOA flight, there must be more to this story than just strong winds. It’s really curious that they didn’t request it after the winter of 23 when there were actual tech stops for one week.
Negative. SEA - KOA in January of this year. I can find the actual flight info if you’re curious. Max tanks, cost index zero. 40 revenue pax kicked to the curb. No MELs, no bad weather, just headwinds. And even 40 pax was cutting it tight on min fuel. Had we had the normal line up on 16R it would have been back to the gate.
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Old 10-16-2024, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
Negative. SEA - KOA in January of this year. I can find the actual flight info if you’re curious. Max tanks, cost index zero. 40 revenue pax kicked to the curb. No MELs, no bad weather, just headwinds. And even 40 pax was cutting it tight on min fuel. Had we had the normal line up on 16R it would have been back to the gate.
what was the flight time? I’ve had SEA-OGG at 6:15 without issue. Several SEA-LIHs just as long.
Why were you using 16R for takeoff?
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