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Old 09-28-2024, 07:13 AM
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Great - if I was in charge of network I'd made Austin a hub for us. Great 220/73N/321 hub, can hit both coasts comfortable. High income city with business so good O/D traffic, nice mid-continent location

Only problem is enough gates, that would be the sticking point. I know they are getting a new concourse but that's years away.
Its a slow build up. We watched what AA did for 4 years and took notes. They dumped in new routes by the truckload and peeled them off. I'd expect to see small adds here and there for a measured build up, as we can claim gates.
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Panama City???
I have recently made a purchase there, those flights are really full..all of them. Terrible commute for those who live there...meaning there is money to be made there if everything is full.
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Old 09-29-2024, 08:28 AM
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I have recently made a purchase there, those flights are really full..all of them. Terrible commute for those who live there...meaning there is money to be made there if everything is full.
Well, okay. But to Austin?
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Old 09-29-2024, 06:49 PM
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Additional Austin expansion
https://onemileatatime.com/news/delta-expands-austin/

Tampa and San Francisco on A220, Memphis, Panama City, and Indianapolis on ArrJay (Skywest 175).
I thought one of the main reasons AA pulled back from Austin was due to scope violation(s)? They had too many regional jets flying from a non-hub city to another non-hub city. I thought AA and D have similar scope provisions that 'X' percent of regional flying must always touch a hub. As D builds up more flying in Austin, also with a similar spread of regional jets, won't that be an issue? I think anytime there is a increase in flying in a city, whether regional or mainline, it is a good thing.
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I thought one of the main reasons AA pulled back from Austin was due to scope violation(s)? They had too many regional jets flying from a non-hub city to another non-hub city. I thought AA and D have similar scope provisions that 'X' percent of regional flying must always touch a hub. As D builds up more flying in Austin, also with a similar spread of regional jets, won't that be an issue? I think anytime there is a increase in flying in a city, whether regional or mainline, it is a good thing.
Read PWA 1.D.5. To paraphrase:
There’s a list of cities that are our general hubs. At least 90% of RJ flying has to be to or from those cities. In addition, any other city with an average of at least 50 daily mainline flights counts as one of these cities aka hubs. If Austin hits 50 mainline/day, the RJ scope won’t be an issue. I think during peak travel we fly almost 50 flights/day, I just don’t know how many are mainline.

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Originally Posted by Planetrain
Read PWA 1.D.5. To paraphrase:
There’s a list of cities that are our general hubs. At least 90% of RJ flying has to be to or from those cities. In addition, any other city with an average of at least 50 daily mainline flights counts as one of these cities aka hubs. If Austin hits 50 mainline/day, the RJ scope won’t be an issue. I think during peak travel we fly almost 50 flights/day, I just don’t know how many are mainline.
As of right now June 2025 will have 56 departures of which 38 (68%) are mainline. I’m not sure where this puts AUS in our network but it’s gotta be in the top 3 with MCO and RDU in terms of departures.

I suspect there will be more growth before then as we seem to announce a new round of AUS routes about every 3-4 months. CUN, SJD, MIA/FLL, SAN, SNA, SJC, PDX all seem likely candidates for mainline service. Depending on how much we want to poke UA ORD and DEN are way up there too.
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As of right now June 2025 will have 56 departures of which 38 (68%) are mainline. I’m not sure where this puts AUS in our network but it’s gotta be in the top 3 with MCO and RDU in terms of departures.

I suspect there will be more growth before then as we seem to announce a new round of AUS routes about every 3-4 months. CUN, SJD, MIA/FLL, SAN, SNA, SJC, PDX all seem likely candidates for mainline service. Depending on how much we want to poke UA ORD and DEN are way up there too.
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DEN-AMS you heard it here first
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Old 09-30-2024, 09:38 AM
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DEN-AMS you heard it here first
Originally Posted by LloydC
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Just like our AUS-AMS service.
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