sailingfun

Airbus wants to jump into the go around discussion also! Actually a double go around!
Most of you are to young to know we tried to run a 767 off one of the bridges in Dallas with a single engine taxi before we fully understood how the hydraulics would be effected!
I generally did single engine taxi per the company policy if I felt it was safe. The fuel savings is significant. What I always wondered was how much damage due to shorter engine warmups and a higher FOD hazard with higher breakaway RPM offset the lower fuel cost.

HelloNewnan

My bet is Li'l Nicky isn't even a pilot, let alone at Delta. Probably just a basement dwelling internet troll waiting for his mother to finish heating up his hotpocket. Everything he knows probably came from Airliners.net.

bluejuice71

LMAO!! You obviously haven’t been reading the entire thread.

Buford

So back on target-

Any 350 drivers heard any rumors about service to Melbourne (MEL)? I'm guessing it isn't the highest priority of all possible new destinations, but with the -1000 it seems like it's in play. I have family there so am pretty anxious to see if anyone's got some intel on the feasibility of it. I was glad to see BNE has been added, but for me, it's not quite what I was hoping for....

Crown

1. You said I was a ****ty pilot. You don't know me. I don't know how good of a pilot I am, but I'm quite confident I'm not a ****ty pilot.

2. Only way our airline would save MILLIONS of gallons of fuel is if single-engine taxi was mandatory across all fleets, all the time.

3. I'm guessing 99% of our pilot group is capable of moving an airplane on the ground with one engine running. Not 50%.

4. SET is not "perfectly" safe. You literally just increased the workload of yourself and the FO by burning one vs. two. I'll sum it up. Two engines before taxi = less tasks to worry about while taxiing. One engine before taxi = more tasks to worry about while taxiing.

5. I guarantee you your FOs would rather not be starting an engine on taxi and would rather two engine taxi. I talk to these guys and gals, who are grateful that I am a two engine taxi captain.

6. It's simply safer to taxi with both motors running. You've eliminated a threat by doing so.

Have a nice night. I'm out.

Crown

Melbourne is in play

konabear

So many times. You've offered the guidance. Yet you don't heed your own advice. And the troll gets fed another biscuit.

Khantahr

As an FO, I really don't care if the captain wants one or two engines. Starting the second one on the roll isn't hard. Of course, I'm not on the 73 either.

tennisguru

I’m in the exact same boat.

I will say this - the argument that SET = bad because it increases workload doesn’t hold up. We do lots of things that increase workload and yet manage that increase just fine under appropriate conditions:

Hand flying a departure past the AP engagement altitude increases workload. On a nice VFR day that increase in manageable and happens thousands of times a day. At night in the mountains with thunderstorms is not the time to be hand flying. Same with landing. If we are so concerned about workload increases we would autoland every time it was possible. Yet guys increase the workload every day by taking off the automation and we don’t have planes falling out of the sky. Again, there are definitely situations where hand flying on approach can task overload one or both pilots.

Heck, even doing the taxi checklist after you start taxiiing increases workload, so why isn’t anyone on here pushing to also do the taxi checklist every time right after pushback?

Yes, SET increases workload, but also pilots manage that work with ease each and every day. This just comes down to common sense. Short taxi, complex taxi, low vis taxi, recent new hire, recent upgrade, etc, spin both every time. On lots of other situations SET is completely reasonable (I guess this is also fleet dependent). We are all in agreement that the SET-no-matter-what guys are just dumb. But SET has a place in common sense operations, and just like many other aspects of our job it is left to our discretion instead having hard lines drawn.

FangsF15

Fair point. With so many new folks showing up, IMO sometimes they need to see push back, as they haven’t seen enough to know him for what he is. They don’t necessarily know he’s on an island. But point taken.