A350-1000 and other Fleet News
03-08-2024, 08:35 AM
#2663
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
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“start em both”??? Is that because you’re a weak captain and have no clue how to manage the cockpit while taxiing or you just don’t give 2 ****s about saving any gas? There’s obviously a time and a place to go out on 2 motors, but that’s the exception. You know how much wasted gas we would have as an airline if every single plane on every single flight went out on 2 motors?
03-08-2024, 08:42 AM
#2664
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You mean like waiting for a gate to open while having to keep moving to stay out of everyone else's way and riding the brakes the entire time? There certainly are times when single engine taxi makes sense and others when it doesn't. Starting the APU, opening the X-bleed valve and pulling the engine master to shutoff isn't high workload (to me). And the captain only has to continue taxiing so not sure what makes that high workload for them. But the point is they have discretion on doing it or not. Clearly you arent in favor of it but that doesnt mean its the same for everyone else.
03-08-2024, 08:43 AM
#2665
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The big buses are mostly good. At least when we get a little lighter we are getting up there and pushing the mach when we can. Still nothing like the 74 though. That thing would run high and fast like no other.
03-08-2024, 11:57 AM
#2666
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Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: 737 FO
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okay. That’s a reason to bid an airplane. I’ll never understand the “it climbs really well” or “it lands anywhere” kind of appeal. I flew it for years. It’s fine. It’s an airplane and it flies to JAX as well as any other.
it’s fast in cruise! Okay, the difference on a transcon is single digit minutes. Who cares?
it’s fast in cruise! Okay, the difference on a transcon is single digit minutes. Who cares?
I know Alaska flies normally in the .75-.77 range. .75 to .80 is 20 minutes at that long of a flight. I took off behind an Alaska 737 in Seattle last year and we both went to JFK, both 737s. We were in the gate and they hadn't even landed yet. Those times aren't really all there is though. 5 minutes earlier is 5 minutes ahead in sequencing, and when they are delaying inbounds the difference can multiply and your initial 5 minute difference might turn into 10 or 15.
Whether that really matters in the long run is a different story, but "only a few minutes" isn't really how it ends up working in the end. On the mighty 737 Delta usually has us at .79 and sometimes close to .80 so with the planned cost index anyway so we're already going pretty fast.
This more applies to how differences in speed affect you in a given plane though, not necessarily different fleets, although I recall hearing the 350 is quite fast itself.
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03-08-2024, 02:05 PM
#2667
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Yep. Company has no problem saving $1000+ a month by denying coverage for an in formulary medicine my wife needs because of lingering effects from brain surgery.
I'm not going to risk my certificate or others safety to save them $400 of JetA when the next leg Im just gonna burn 3x that holding out for a 2 engine gate.
There's a time to single engine taxi. How often is fleet and engine type dependent.
321 NEO? Almost never.
Light 757 #32 in line for takforf? Probably.
412,000 pound ER going to Argentina? No.
I'm not going to risk my certificate or others safety to save them $400 of JetA when the next leg Im just gonna burn 3x that holding out for a 2 engine gate.
There's a time to single engine taxi. How often is fleet and engine type dependent.
321 NEO? Almost never.
Light 757 #32 in line for takforf? Probably.
412,000 pound ER going to Argentina? No.
you really going to start both when #32 for takeoff?
03-08-2024, 02:44 PM
#2668
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Position: NYC 7ERA
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03-08-2024, 05:58 PM
#2670
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A 1/2 decade agp when every airline was trying to out green eachother, I read an article how Lufthansa was supposedly developing a system whereas you could have a small remote controlled tug that would drag you to the runway at their hub airport and then you could dispatch the tug and start engines when it was your time to takeoff. Ever since that one article, never heard more of the actual system in use though.
