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Old 03-05-2024, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
FIFY.

We currently have 28 350s in service with 36 more on order. I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all to suspect we will eventually fly our largest and longest range WB out of our second largest hub.
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Old 03-05-2024, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Interesting, since a Delta 350 has never once landed in JFK other than a divert. Are you talking a pilot base?
Yes. NYC is the second largest base we have. We plan on growing there once we get all the A gates in T4 once the new T1 construction is done.

Big plans for NYC forthcoming from what I'm hearing. General Lee what have you heard?
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Old 03-05-2024, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Maybe, maybe 2028?

Here's something else to chew on. 350 in JFK. Heard it here first.
100% it’s coming. Will be the best bid pack at Delta.
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Old 03-05-2024, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Vsop
or they just believe the engineers/programers that programmed the FMS and noticed that .80/.81 had more EFOA than .77/.78/.79/.82 ….
except, you know, that it doesn’t.
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Old 03-05-2024, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
It actually does… the 767
yep, which is why we get planned at .81 all the time based on the mountains of data the company has


oh wait
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Old 03-05-2024, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
FIFY.

We currently have 28 350s in service with 36 more on order. I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all to suspect we will eventually fly our largest and longest range WB out of our second largest hub.
yeah we all know India is coming and maybe something else but that still doesn’t = base opening. Look at SLC for clue. 3 a day and sometimes up to 5 a day on the 330. We would need substantially more evidence of 350 NYC routes than the 1 or maybe 2 being discussed (and that’s discussion is so preliminary and far out it’s a just a talking point anyways)
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Old 03-05-2024, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
I was in the fleet for almost 2 decades.

Flown most of our underperforming yet efficient other planes to include the big buses. Nothing, nothing ( other than the 777-200LR and maybe the 350-1000) comes remotely close to the capability of the 757. Nothing.
no one is arguing that. People are just flat out saying who cares? The factor of affecting us is so minimal, it’s not even a factor in your bids unless you have some sort of burning desire to say you flew the thing and let everyone know.

for the vast majority of the seniority list, people only care about trips/pay/QOL/seniority etc. Do you bid based on a performance of an airplane?
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Old 03-06-2024, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
except, you know, that it doesn’t.
I was never in the 7ER but the 765 certainly did. We would routinely adjust the crossing speed and arrive at destination with way over planned fuel and track the increase at each point of the crossing. Some captains would stay at .78/.79 and we would hit the paperwork planned fuel. I think at least the 765 prefers the higher speed probably due to its lack of wing span.
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Old 03-06-2024, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Vsop
I was never in the 7ER but the 765 certainly did. We would routinely adjust the crossing speed and arrive at destination with way over planned fuel and track the increase at each point of the crossing. Some captains would stay at .78/.79 and we would hit the paperwork planned fuel. I think at least the 765 prefers the higher speed probably due to its lack of wing span.
The testing on fuel burn numbers by Boeing is down to the pint basically. If you fly fast you burn more gas period. To the comment the company flies us at .81 that is because of crew costs and headwinds. When a ER CA got 160 bucks an hour not that long ago we flew at 78.
The Key factor on why we consistently under burn is takeoff weight and that Delta plans slightly conservative based on historical burn numbers. The company flight plans for the max possible takeoff weight. The actual takeoff weights are generally less. When the agents in Mumbai were lying about the amount of cargo onboard we often overburned as much as 7000 lbs of fuel.
This argument reminds me of the almost pathological need to constantly fly as high as possible on the 330. Airbus has a different take on that but what do those French engineers know about the airplane they built!

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Old 03-06-2024, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
350 base in airport the 350 has 0 routes from.
But the magical 350-1000 will change all that. 😁
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