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Old 01-15-2024, 12:07 AM
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Absolutely wonderful discussion here folks. As a 73 fan I will add this, even though the jet has the capability to start down on its own at TOD hardly anyone does it as it opens up the threat of an overspeed that happens quite quickly if you're not paying attention. Most pilots hit alt intervene 10-15 mi before TOD.

Also probably no surprise to anyone the 73 does not have auto anti ice and requires a pilot to turn 4 switches nearly every time it's turned on and off. Easy work for former Mad Dog pilots though.
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Old 01-15-2024, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by marcal
I've always said that anyone who says the Airbus is bad in a crosswind simply doesn't know how to land in a x-wind. Flare, squeeze rudder, stick as necessary to maintain centerline. Maybe a hair wing down. No diff than any other transport jet.
Exactly. It started from a group back in the day that would attempt to side slip the last few hundred feet, not sure what military affiliation spearheaded that technique. Agree, if you fly it like an airplane it will do cross winds fairly well. The Airbuii are significantly slower to respond to stick input vs Boeing's yoke, so gusting crosses get super sporty. Flying through a computer vs having one stand guard at the edges of an envelope must be the difference.
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Old 01-15-2024, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CrazyEight
Exactly. It started from a group back in the day that would attempt to side slip the last few hundred feet, not sure what military affiliation spearheaded that technique. Agree, if you fly it like an airplane it will do cross winds fairly well. The Airbuii are significantly slower to respond to stick input vs Boeing's yoke, so gusting crosses get super sporty. Flying through a computer vs having one stand guard at the edges of an envelope must be the difference.
The Airbus fly by wire system is a very basic system without the incorporation of any feedback. More modern system like the A220 and 787 fly exactly like a conventional aircraft and incorporate rate and motion feedback. This was in part by design as Airbus prefers the autopilot be on for most operations.
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Old 01-15-2024, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The Airbus fly by wire system is a very basic system without the incorporation of any feedback. More modern system like the A220 and 787 fly exactly like a conventional aircraft and incorporate rate and motion feedback. This was in part by design as Airbus prefers the autopilot be on for most operations.
newer airbii are a lot crisper than your dad’s NW 320. A. Lot.
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Originally Posted by Hossharris
newer airbii are a lot crisper than your dad’s NW 320. A. Lot.
The A330-900 was anything but crisp!
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Old 01-15-2024, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Well I can't find it in the FCTM, the OE guide, and I know quite a few LCP on the Airbii fleets and they are not "teaching" this technique. Maybe you can find were it says you can? Becasue I've never been taught this on the line or in the school house. Never mentioned in the myriad of line checks I've recevied etc. I know the technique exists, but haven't ever used it or found the need to do so. Just me though. But if you can find where it mentions this technique in a Delta Airbus Fleet publication, I'm all ears.
Look at the Oct 330 Fleet Newsletter.
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as an ER guy who switched from the baby bus reading this thread I’m absolutely dreading when that thing goes to the desert.

I don’t think God himself could have designed a better plane than the 757-200.
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Old 01-15-2024, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Extenda

I don’t think God himself could have designed a better plane than the 757-200.
It was designed by God. Only built by Boeing.
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Old 01-15-2024, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Extenda
as an ER guy who switched from the baby bus reading this thread I’m absolutely dreading when that thing goes to the desert.

I don’t think God himself could have designed a better plane than the 757-200.
So true!........
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Old 01-15-2024, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
there’s not a written prohibition that I’m aware of, but I feel that intentionally capturing an altitude that you aren’t actually cleared to would cover it. It’s not much, but I’m just saying that you WILL hear about it on a line check
HA HA - depends on the line check. Who do you think taught us this technique :-)
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