A350-1000 and other Fleet News
01-14-2024, 04:46 PM
#2231
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My point was, the plane is capable of it...but for some odd reason the designers intended for not arming DES in cruise. Maybe it's just too shallow a learning for the lowest common denominator pilot.
01-14-2024, 04:51 PM
#2232
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Where does it say you can't? If you could grab me a reference, I'll pay it back to the pilots I fly with.
My point was, the plane is capable of it...but for some odd reason the designers intended for not arming DES in cruise. Maybe it's just too shallow a learning for the lowest common denominator pilot.
My point was, the plane is capable of it...but for some odd reason the designers intended for not arming DES in cruise. Maybe it's just too shallow a learning for the lowest common denominator pilot.
01-14-2024, 04:53 PM
#2233
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Well I can't find it in the FCTM, the OE guide, and I know quite a few LCP on the Airbii fleets and they are not "teaching" this technique. Maybe you can find were it says you can? Becasue I've never been taught this on the line or in the school house. Never mentioned in the myriad of line checks I've recevied etc. I know the technique exists, but haven't ever used it or found the need to do so. Just me though. But if you can find where it mentions this technique in a Delta Airbus Fleet publication, I'm all ears.
01-14-2024, 05:02 PM
#2235
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Where does it say you can't? If you could grab me a reference, I'll pay it back to the pilots I fly with.
My point was, the plane is capable of it...but for some odd reason the designers intended for not arming DES in cruise. Maybe it's just too shallow a learning for the lowest common denominator pilot.
My point was, the plane is capable of it...but for some odd reason the designers intended for not arming DES in cruise. Maybe it's just too shallow a learning for the lowest common denominator pilot.
01-14-2024, 05:17 PM
#2236
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Well I can't find it in the FCTM, the OE guide, and I know quite a few LCP on the Airbii fleets and they are not "teaching" this technique. Maybe you can find were it says you can? Becasue I've never been taught this on the line or in the school house. Never mentioned in the myriad of line checks I've recevied etc. I know the technique exists, but haven't ever used it or found the need to do so. Just me though. But if you can find where it mentions this technique in a Delta Airbus Fleet publication, I'm all ears.
01-14-2024, 05:22 PM
#2237
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I don't advocate it as a technique, nor will anyone. It's more work than just hitting a button. The point I was making was, Airbus chose to inhibit pilots arming DES in cruise. That's the reason it "won't" start down, not because it "can't". You arm DES all the time, just in ALT vs ALT CRZ. It can be tricked. That's for the Boeing dudes who were mocking my beloved Fifi.
01-14-2024, 05:24 PM
#2238
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Yeah I'm sure a pilot would. LCP would be like WTF he do that for? I see no need to ever do it. But just for outside the box discussion..10ft is within tolerance, and you've been given clearance to descend at your discretion...no rules broken. Yet every pilot I see on a 321 selects 205kts instead of 210 when assigned by ATC so they can get to flaps 2. I see nowhere mentioning this technique either, cuz well you can't intentionally tell people to violate a clearence in writting. I like it though, just don't tell ATC 😀🫢
01-14-2024, 05:29 PM
#2239
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I don't advocate it as a technique, nor will anyone. It's more work than just hitting a button. The point I was making was, Airbus chose to inhibit pilots arming DES in cruise. That's the reason it "won't" start down, not because it "can't". You arm DES all the time, just in ALT vs ALT CRZ. It can be tricked. That's for the Boeing dudes who were mocking my beloved Fifi.
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01-14-2024, 06:15 PM
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I've always said that anyone who says the Airbus is bad in a crosswind simply doesn't know how to land in a x-wind. Flare, squeeze rudder, stick as necessary to maintain centerline. Maybe a hair wing down. No diff than any other transport jet.
