A350-1000 and other Fleet News
#2131
How hard is it to search for "Delta 350" on your favoite search engine?
#2132
A339 order would have been announced today as well if we were getting those.. they’re an older design, 787 adds fleet diversity, lower cabin altitude for pax comfort, better at hauling cargo… and cheaper airplane than the 339. 339 is a short term solution for Delta, there’s a reason it’s not in high demand
2. We have diversity…with 350s
3. Company doesn’t care about cabin alt
4. Show me stats, but it can’t be that much better than the NEO
5. Not cheaper when you consider the sims/procedure trainers we’d have to buy, the training department churn, etc.
I’d love to have some 787s. But I’m also a realist, and at this point, it ain’t happening unless Boeing comes with a sweetheart of a deal. So long as we can keep getting MRO agreements on the 350/330 engines, we’ll be an AB air line wrt WBs.
#2133
I always have to chuckle at news articles which go to the photo bank to accompnay an article of brand new WB's, and pick... A picture with an aircraft we retired almost 4 years ago, and a NB we've had forever.
How hard is it to search for "Delta 350" on your favoite search engine?
How hard is it to search for "Delta 350" on your favoite search engine?
I believe that to buy unrestricted rights to good photos from someone off of a.net can run in the $1,000s. Something Reuters is way too cheap to do just to refresh their photo stock.
#2134
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I believe the MRO deal is with RollsRoyce which is an engine option on the 787. Regardless if engines are RR, GE, PE, adding a new feet/engine would give Delta more potential customers for TechOps.
#2135
Because the A338 is a turd. There is a very good reason no one is ordering it. The fact that it is similarly sized to a 767, and closer to the -400 than the -300 doesn't mean it is the optimal replacement for those jets. The A338 is a shrink of the A339 to give it more range. Same is true of the A332 and the only reason NW ordered them is because they needed more range than the original PW powered 323's could provide. The 763 is a stretch of the original 762 which also sold poorly, relative to the 300. The 787-9 (not 900) is also a stretch of the -8 which, once again is not the version that Boeing is selling lots of these days. We also don't necessarily need a like for like replacemnt of the 767 for every route it flies. Int'l markets are growing, not contracting. Up gauging is likely going to be the way we continue to serve them.
Last edited by notEnuf; 01-12-2024 at 01:04 PM.
#2136
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The 787 is future proof, and yes the RR engine options will help with negotiating. Delta is all about selling a premium product and the general public knows the 787 and 350 are superior products for comfort. They can swap around 787’s with partner airlines as well just like we took LATAM’s 350’s. Only 4 airlines in the world operate the 339- it’s a short term solution. If there was going to be a big 330 order, it would have been announced today with the 350’s. Delta is also probably waiting for someone to go out of business to secure their next round of WB jets
#2138
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that would be sweet. Can’t see them taking a 350 to all those niche locations the 767 goes now. Also, reading the contract it looks like 350-1000 rates need to be negotiated
#2139
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Passengers will be thrilled. The new NPS 350 cabins are 9 inches wider than the 787. Almost an extra inch per seat in economy.
#2140