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Old 01-03-2024, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
I don’t think we have any LR or XLR orders. Maybe I’m wrong but I am pretty sure we don’t. I have always wanted to get those 2 I don’t understand why we don’t have any to be honest.
I think its because you really need either of those models to really make trans atlantic work with a neo and thats not in the plans for us.
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Old 01-03-2024, 10:56 AM
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I don’t think we have any LR or XLR orders. Maybe I’m wrong but I am pretty sure we don’t. I have always wanted to get those 2 I don’t understand why we don’t have any to be honest.
Why do you want jets that can have the range of some WB flying paying at NB rates?
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Old 01-03-2024, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
But I’m still unclear of 76ER replacements and I hope it’s not just 321neos. I’d like to see more 339’s or even 338neos if we could get a deal. But I don’t know. That seems really up in the air.
There isn't a one for one replacement available. The company has stated 330s and 350s will replace 767 capacity. I think when you look to the future, a 767 sized aircraft is better than say a 321 neo LR and a 339 or 789 sized aircraft is better than a 763 for the same mission. So i think we can get by up gauging that 763 capacity to the A339 and not being dependent a 763 sized jet for the futre since we never really sent a majority of 757/321 sized aircraft across the pond. Point being, the replacement for the 763 that makes the most sense for us is an up sized one (A339), not necessarily one of the same size or smaller. Boeing has no plans for the 797 at this time. The 787-8 is too heavy and inefficient as a 767 replacement which is why it barely sells compared to the larger variants. The same is true of the A338; even more so in fact.
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There isn't a one for one replacement available. The company has stated 330s and 350s will replace 767 capacity. I think when you look to the future, a 767 sized aircraft is better than say a 321 neo LR and a 339 or 789 sized aircraft is better than a 763 for the same mission. So i think we can get by up gauging that 763 capacity to the A339 and not being dependent a 763 sized jet for the futre since we never really sent a majority of 757/321 sized aircraft across the pond. Point being, the replacement for the 763 that makes the most sense for us is an up sized one (A339), not necessarily one of the same size or smaller. Boeing has no plans for the 797 at this time. The 787-8 is too heavy and inefficient as a 767 replacement which is why it barely sells compared to the larger variants. The same is true of the A338; even more so in fact.
Wouldn't surprise me to see a lower capacity 339 similar to what Virgin flies.
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Old 01-03-2024, 11:56 AM
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Isn't Boeing working on a new engine 767? Maybe that will show up here
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Old 01-03-2024, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
Why do you want jets that can have the range of some WB flying paying at NB rates?
Boutique routes would be nice to bring back. The 321 seems the most likely option to fly those routes. However, they won’t be in Delta livery. Our GS and PWA both grant our partner carriers permission and disincentivize Delta to perform transatlantic NB flying.
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Old 01-03-2024, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
Why do you want jets that can have the range of some WB flying paying at NB rates?
we already have international Atlantic flights on NB airplanes (757) and some coming back. It would be simple to replace those rather than lose the route altogether. On top of growing the route structure back to what it was with the 757 routes that we lost over the Atlantic. I’m not saying replace 76ER routes with LR’s/XLR’s. I already said I was against that in another comment.
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Old 01-03-2024, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
That's what I recall from the discussions I was a part of, albeit some tiem ago.

MAX was going to be transcon and support caribbean and florida flying. Part fo the NEO fleet would be ETOPs for reasons. With the 75 engine overhaul it will be intersting to see how this plays out MAX vs 75. The plan back then was for MAX to have the D1 configuration, is that still in the works?

Thanks General, always appreciate your insights here.
No prob! I'll have to ask about the D1 plans. I do expect that we do see other Max variants at the end of the decade to replace some of the older 73s/ baby bus's. It has been mentioned by network that the max8/9 could be used by us for ETOPS in that scenario. As we have seen, there just truly is not a replacmenet for the venerable 75. It is taking multiple fleets to kind of accomplish the work. The 75s will solider on to shorter stage lengths and operate the SAQs where nothing else can do the job to the same level load wise. The 76s will start to disappear after this summer. 10 are slated to leave the fleet after summer 24 flying (subject to change of course).
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Old 01-03-2024, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
I know about 330 flying to DUB, but we also send the 75/76 there as well. But yeah, DUB is big in summer for sure. I was thinking maybe more in the shoulder months for the NEOs. I'm just spitballing here anyway. Network has always confused me.
The 321 is too small for DUB. I could see SNN this summer, possibly.
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Old 01-03-2024, 04:01 PM
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The 321 is too small for DUB. I could see SNN this summer, possibly.
snn is already scheduled on 757
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