A350-1000 and other Fleet News
12-16-2023, 07:54 AM
#1762
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,037
The Captain was making less than half of what a Delta First Officer makes, but he had excellent elocution and mediocre execution.
12-16-2023, 11:57 AM
#1763
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: A320 Left seat
Posts: 2,590
Oh I totally agree Delta cares, which is why no DL Airbus has them. This is the same company (NW heritage) who will step over a dollar to same a dime, and wanted to save a few Pennies on the crap “Ferry seat” on the 320 by making it a permanent solution. Effing stupid.
Also agree about the taxi cameras. I think a business case could absolutely be made via safety savings, much less anything else. But alas…
Also agree about the taxi cameras. I think a business case could absolutely be made via safety savings, much less anything else. But alas…
NW ordered their 747-400's without chillers in the galley so all they had to keep the food cold for a 14 hour flight was dry ice.
12-16-2023, 12:11 PM
#1764
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 26
It’s easy: just tell Paddles you’re no HUD, tell the CATCC rep you’re too good to couple up for the Mode 1, settle into the Ace and get your OK upgrade on the way to midrats. Wait, never mind, that was USS last job… that said, some aircraft the HUD is a primary flight reference and a legit abnormal when it dies, but it’s pretty rare.
12-16-2023, 12:19 PM
#1765
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 707
It’s easy: just tell Paddles you’re no HUD, tell the CATCC rep you’re too good to couple up for the Mode 1, settle into the Ace and get your OK upgrade on the way to midrats. Wait, never mind, that was USS last job… that said, some aircraft the HUD is a primary flight reference and a legit abnormal when it dies, but it’s pretty rare.
12-16-2023, 01:05 PM
#1766
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2023
Posts: 1,510
It’s easy: just tell Paddles you’re no HUD, tell the CATCC rep you’re too good to couple up for the Mode 1, settle into the Ace and get your OK upgrade on the way to midrats. Wait, never mind, that was USS last job… that said, some aircraft the HUD is a primary flight reference and a legit abnormal when it dies, but it’s pretty rare.
I'm sure, but a rosetta stone would help those of us that are not in the know with you guys' lexicon.
12-16-2023, 02:27 PM
#1767
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 707
Sounds interesting, I wish I understood what it is you are talking about...can you decifer for those of us who have no clue about what I assume is aircraft carrier operations?
I'm sure, but a rosetta stone would help those of us that are not in the know with you guys' lexicon.
I'm sure, but a rosetta stone would help those of us that are not in the know with you guys' lexicon.
CATCC is the carrier air traffic control center. We can let them know about malfunctions, but more significantly, a squadron rep is there to assist with emergencies over the radio.
Mode 1 is an autoland.
A 1-wire is bad. 3-wire is best. It’s one thing to barely not get over the 1, but it’s another (way worse) thing to be so low and land so aft that you taxi into the 1-wire (“taxi 1”). Ace is a nickname for a 1 wire.
OK is the best grade you can get under most circumstances. A 1-wire is normally give a grade of “no grade” which is the worst one under most circumstances (and 2 levels below OK). If you land without a HUD, or some other big impediment or emergency, you may get the grade upgraded.
Midrats is a scheduled meal around midnight for those working the graveyard shift.
Last edited by Viper25; 12-16-2023 at 03:11 PM.
12-16-2023, 05:38 PM
#1768
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: B737 FO
Posts: 707
On the 737 it's pointless. My landings are the same in either seat. Sure it's fun to use and kind of nice to tell if we're going to top some clouds..but experience and eye sight is just as good. And as far as lower mins, I've never needed it for takeoff.. and if the weather is cat3 I'm autolanding, not hand flying a hud approach. (Unless the autopilot is inop, but come on how frequent is that?)
I also wish we had more latitude to not use it. Maybe my interpretation is too strict but I don't feel like I can ever not use it unless it's on MEL. I rode on a SWA j/s a bit ago and the CA flipped it down during taxi to check it and then stowed it for the remainder of the flight. I'd like to be able to periodically fly without it so I could feel confident if it was MEL'd.
12-16-2023, 06:09 PM
#1769
Gets Everyday Off
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Fully Retired
Posts: 7,000
12-16-2023, 10:56 PM
#1770
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 26
Paddles is the LSO that is there to monitor and if necessary assist with the pass.
CATCC is the carrier air traffic control center. We can let them know about malfunctions, but more significantly, a squadron rep is there to assist with emergencies over the radio.
Mode 1 is an autoland.
A 1-wire is bad. 3-wire is best. It’s one thing to barely not get over the 1, but it’s another (way worse) thing to be so low and land so aft that you taxi into the 1-wire (“taxi 1”). Ace is a nickname for a 1 wire.
OK is the best grade you can get under most circumstances. A 1-wire is normally give a grade of “no grade” which is the worst one under most circumstances (and 2 levels below OK). If you land without a HUD, or some other big impediment or emergency, you may get the grade upgraded.
Midrats is a scheduled meal around midnight for those working the graveyard shift.
CATCC is the carrier air traffic control center. We can let them know about malfunctions, but more significantly, a squadron rep is there to assist with emergencies over the radio.
Mode 1 is an autoland.
A 1-wire is bad. 3-wire is best. It’s one thing to barely not get over the 1, but it’s another (way worse) thing to be so low and land so aft that you taxi into the 1-wire (“taxi 1”). Ace is a nickname for a 1 wire.
OK is the best grade you can get under most circumstances. A 1-wire is normally give a grade of “no grade” which is the worst one under most circumstances (and 2 levels below OK). If you land without a HUD, or some other big impediment or emergency, you may get the grade upgraded.
Midrats is a scheduled meal around midnight for those working the graveyard shift.
Back to the HUD topic, I’d like to see the data since Delta is all about their data what’s the cost savings of hard landing damage, go arounds, etc that a HUD can mitigate vs the training costs? Don’t knock it till you try it.
