A350-1000 and other Fleet News
12-15-2023, 12:23 PM
#1751
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Joined APC: Apr 2010
Position: B737 FO
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Not all of them do…the original Delta orders do not have them. Some of the LATAM planes came with them already installed. Plan was to deactivate them until Airbus quoted the price to push around the paperwork. They are a great situational awareness tool, especially during pushback. I’m not sure if they are wired into the IFE, but I don’t think so.
12-15-2023, 12:41 PM
#1752
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 330 B
Posts: 1,615
Not all of them do…the original Delta orders do not have them. Some of the LATAM planes came with them already installed. Plan was to deactivate them until Airbus quoted the price to push around the paperwork. They are a great situational awareness tool, especially during pushback. I’m not sure if they are wired into the IFE, but I don’t think so.
12-15-2023, 01:23 PM
#1753
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,228
Have you ever flown with a HUD?
I could care less about cost. The bus ain’t an RJ or a 73 - it’s plenty spacious to not hit your noggin. As a guy who has many thousands of landings with a HUD, I’d love to have one again. Having a FPM/VV is very useful. Think we’ll top that cloud deck in cruise? A FPM makes it obvious. And putting the airplane precisely where you want it on landing is a piece of cake, especially in gusty crosswinds. The cross check is way better too, especially SE. Obviously, it’s not required, and thousands of landings without one have gone just fine, but given the choice, I’d take one every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I could care less about cost. The bus ain’t an RJ or a 73 - it’s plenty spacious to not hit your noggin. As a guy who has many thousands of landings with a HUD, I’d love to have one again. Having a FPM/VV is very useful. Think we’ll top that cloud deck in cruise? A FPM makes it obvious. And putting the airplane precisely where you want it on landing is a piece of cake, especially in gusty crosswinds. The cross check is way better too, especially SE. Obviously, it’s not required, and thousands of landings without one have gone just fine, but given the choice, I’d take one every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
12-15-2023, 03:19 PM
#1754
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
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While you "could" care less about the cost, I can assure you that Delta does. They wanted to remove the taxi cameras from the A350s and when the paperwork costs were factored in they decided to leave them. I personally think they are a really good safety item. I'm surprised the HUDs have remained on the 737s s long as they have.
Also agree about the taxi cameras. I think a business case could absolutely be made via safety savings, much less anything else. But alas…
12-15-2023, 03:23 PM
#1755
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,818
Oh I totally agree Delta cares, which is why no DL Airbus has them. This is the same company (NW heritage) who will step over a dollar to same a dime, and wanted to save a few Pennies on the crap “Ferry seat” on the 320 by making it a permanent solution. Effing stupid.
Also agree about the taxi cameras. I think a business case could absolutely be made via safety savings, much less anything else. But alas…
Also agree about the taxi cameras. I think a business case could absolutely be made via safety savings, much less anything else. But alas…
12-15-2023, 04:27 PM
#1756
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That said, it’s a ‘moo’ point.
12-15-2023, 05:30 PM
#1757
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,057
On the 737 it's pointless. My landings are the same in either seat. Sure it's fun to use and kind of nice to tell if we're going to top some clouds..but experience and eye sight is just as good. And as far as lower mins, I've never needed it for takeoff.. and if the weather is cat3 I'm autolanding, not hand flying a hud approach. (Unless the autopilot is inop, but come on how frequent is that?)
I’ll concede it’s not necessary from a bean counter perspective, but it’s nice to have as a pilot.
12-15-2023, 06:06 PM
#1758
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Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 287
the galley set up is poor, have FA’s crammed up there, along with pilots and passengers trying to constantly use the lavatory - they have to send passengers to the lav in the back because the layout is so bad. I guess they always bang into stuff too since the galley is layed out so poorly. I just asked them what they think about it, some hate it and some don’t mind. As a pax I thought it was a really bad place to have the lavatory right next to the cockpit door
12-15-2023, 06:09 PM
#1759
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,157
On the 737 it's pointless. My landings are the same in either seat. Sure it's fun to use and kind of nice to tell if we're going to top some clouds..but experience and eye sight is just as good. And as far as lower mins, I've never needed it for takeoff.. and if the weather is cat3 I'm autolanding, not hand flying a hud approach. (Unless the autopilot is inop, but come on how frequent is that?)
12-15-2023, 06:35 PM
#1760
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Joined APC: Jul 2023
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