Tinpusher007

I wonder if doctors dream of being doctors, endure the financial burden of school and the studying, do a residency and work day in and day out only to chastise other doctors about discussing their jobs outside of how much money they make...on an Internet forum for doctors?

notEnuf

I don't know, but the doctors I know all think they could run their hospital or health insurance better.

Lou Reed

I've read these comments a plenty about Delta sticking it to Boeing by going French. Is this squabble due to when Delta got the first batch of C Series birds really cheap, and Boeing sued? Or is that so yesteryear, and it's something more recent?

JamesBond

You have a source for this? What has Airbus promised that they can't do?

GeneralLee

Our announcement is imminent and it might surprise folks. I'm looking forward to us growing our WB fleet.

Tinpusher007

I think it's more that Boeing specifically understated the performance of the 787 and Airbus didn't. Our first 350s were the lowest gross weight version. I don't remember hearing of any other early operators of the type having performance issues with theirs. The 777LR that it replaced for us was basically the most capable wide body twin ever made. I see it as less of an Airbus fault and more ours for not realizing it wasn't capable of the same performance.

Gone Flying

Looking forward to it.

can we start 777X rumors?

Or buying Korean’s 747-8s

Whoopsmybad

Now this is the best news in this thread. General Lee FTW.

Although the riddle dorks jab was funny.

blue vortex

The initial big, Delta A350/A339 order was in the fall of 2014 so it was way before the C-Series issue became relevant. Northwest was the 787 NA launch customer (2005) and had 18 firm orders and 50 options. Boeing failed to deliver the 787 on time, and of course the initial batch of production planes were so far under performing and had so many issues that Northwest and then Delta after the merger rejected them. Northwest in fall of 2007 sent a group of mechanics to inspect the airplane and they did not like what they saw at all, fastener issues, and shoddy workmanship on the airplanes. The 787 "rolled out" on 7/8/07 (how cute) but did not even make its first flight until 2-1/2 years later. In time, of course the problems got worked out and in 2014 Delta was on board with ordering the 787 but rumor had it that we wanted them immediately and Boeing would not commit to that. However, that's a strange rumor given the fact that the 350 did not show up on property till 2017 and the 339 in 2019. More likely is that Airbus did a "buy one get one free" deal with Delta.

Personally, I don't think there's any vindictiveness from Delta towards Boeing (like let's screw them over) it's just a business deal, and Delta's business deals involve getting airplanes at the absolute cheapest price possible. Simple as that. Delta's been cheap for a long time. It's built into the culture here. A famous Aviation Week article from the late 60s perhaps best made the point when it reported that Delta required employees to use pencils down to a length of 2 1/2 inches!

Let's hope there is actually a widebody order soon, been promised for a long time.

notEnuf

THIS^^^^^

It's all rhetoric. I can recall our fearless leader saying we were on our way to an all Boeing fleet.