A350-1000 and other Fleet News
11-08-2023, 07:28 AM
#1481
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Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: Middle Seat
Posts: 1,230
I don't think BOS, or A35K rumors should be the only thing that makes pilots skeptical. This management group lies to us all the time, both intentionally and unintentionally. I mean they use the PWA as TP on the 4th floor, so I don't understand why pilots put any stock into anything that comes out of their mouths.
11-08-2023, 08:11 AM
#1482
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: LAX ER
Posts: 1,606
Because in the years 2 B.C. and 1 B.C. (before covid) they sent many emails with colorful graphs and false promises about why there would be one. So much so that they said it would be on the Summer 2020 AE. People will hold onto any rumor there is if it fits their own narrative.
I don't think BOS, or A35K rumors should be the only thing that makes pilots skeptical. This management group lies to us all the time, both intentionally and unintentionally. I mean they use the PWA as TP on the 4th floor, so I don't understand why pilots put any stock into anything that comes out of their mouths.
I don't think BOS, or A35K rumors should be the only thing that makes pilots skeptical. This management group lies to us all the time, both intentionally and unintentionally. I mean they use the PWA as TP on the 4th floor, so I don't understand why pilots put any stock into anything that comes out of their mouths.
11-08-2023, 08:19 AM
#1483
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Joined APC: Nov 2020
Posts: 1,912
I was hired beginning of 2020 and networking told my new hire class not only BOS base but a potential MIA base with the LATAM growth. Then Covid hit so everyone kinda ruled that out. I completely agree - I don’t know why anyone puts stock into anything said. More than half of it never happens.
11-08-2023, 08:26 AM
#1484
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,674
I was hired beginning of 2020 and networking told my new hire class not only BOS base but a potential MIA base with the LATAM growth. Then Covid hit so everyone kinda ruled that out. I completely agree - I don’t know why anyone puts stock into anything said. More than half of it never happens.
11-08-2023, 09:01 AM
#1485
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 330 B
Posts: 1,627
How many International departures do they have a day from SLC? Does it really warrant a Widebody base? It seems like it would be pretty easily accommodated from SEA/MSP 9 months per year and then sub in a 350 from LAX the other 3 months when performance is in question.
11-08-2023, 09:13 AM
#1486
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,250
Not to argue, but I'm not sure the truth changed. The plan might have changed, but not the truth.
The truth is, Delta is a capitalist enterprise. They will usually take actions which they think will maximize profits.
That is the truth. Period.
So opening bases and/or not opening bases will always fall under this umbrella.
As a 2020 hiree, is anyone really surprised that "the plan" changed WRT to bases/aircraft?
Does that make management liars? Would you rather have them follow through with announced plans even though it might cost them money?
I'll take "liars" of a solvent company as opposed to dolts who are incapable of evaluating new information and steer the company into being overleveraged/bankruptcy.
The truth is, Delta is a capitalist enterprise. They will usually take actions which they think will maximize profits.
That is the truth. Period.
So opening bases and/or not opening bases will always fall under this umbrella.
As a 2020 hiree, is anyone really surprised that "the plan" changed WRT to bases/aircraft?
Does that make management liars? Would you rather have them follow through with announced plans even though it might cost them money?
I'll take "liars" of a solvent company as opposed to dolts who are incapable of evaluating new information and steer the company into being overleveraged/bankruptcy.
11-08-2023, 09:29 AM
#1487
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: LAX ER
Posts: 1,606
Slc trips are easily covered by all the other 330 bases with 6 day rotations too. It would be nice to have a WB base here but I am wondering the same. Either way I think long term with more west coast trips on 330 to ICN/HND, SEA could use either a LAX/SLC base. But I have started to come to terms with the reality that maybe it won’t happen too.
11-08-2023, 10:53 AM
#1488
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 330 B
Posts: 1,627
Slc trips are easily covered by all the other 330 bases with 6 day rotations too. It would be nice to have a WB base here but I am wondering the same. Either way I think long term with more west coast trips on 330 to ICN/HND, SEA could use either a LAX/SLC base. But I have started to come to terms with the reality that maybe it won’t happen too.
11-08-2023, 11:54 PM
#1489
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Position: Currently freeloading
Posts: 554
Well they have stated previously that once we have more 350s, LAX will be all 350 which is why there is no 330 base there now despite us flying HND LHR and CDG. So with SEA 330 and LAX 350, SLC could be covered by both, in addition to the other bases as you mentioned.
Network won't commit to five weeks, let alone five years.
11-09-2023, 03:30 AM
#1490
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,635
As someone already mentioned, CR has consistently said for years that they need three international departures a day for a widebody base. But that's only half of the full statement. They need a commitment from Network of three departures a day for FIVE YEARS to justify it.
Network won't commit to five weeks, let alone five years.
Network won't commit to five weeks, let alone five years.
