Nick Bradshaw

Of course it is. The RLA was written to protect companies and consumers, not labor. It's meant to keep the rowers rowing.

notEnuf

The deal is the language. There is no essence. How is that not crystal ****ing clear by now?

IF there was ever an essence, it was a management defined supposal interpreted by an arbitrator.

crazyjaydawg

So how about those A350Ks?

Maybe if the company spent less time trying to figure out how to “until an arbiter says” [sic] violate the contract and more time trying to secure a bright future for the company, we might’ve heard about some orders by now.

tcco94

announcement is coming soon! You will be very excited!

Said by flight ops 12 months ago in a TH

don’t worry it’s almost here! 6 new airplanes to be delivered 2029. ER’s will now fly to 2035!!! Maybe at this rate the new order will be a negotiating carrot for the next contract.

JamesBond

They are securing a bright future for the company.

firstmob

Thanks for trying to get this thread back on course

notEnuf

Carrying a large order book obligation into a sale, merger or other form of collaboration can create issues.

#virtualmerger
#skyvirginklmairfrancelatamteam(byairdeltabus)

https://corporate.virginatlantic.com...Kit%202023.pdf
https://www.airfranceklm.com/en/news...hase-rights-40
https://www.airport-technology.com/n...-airbus-order/

First Break

Just flat wrong.

As much as the “scary lady in RDU” narrative feels good to spread by those who would have never been satisfied, the reality is that the Delta pilots were about to get boned by APA, UAL, or even both prior to even getting the chance to exchange another proposal with Delta. UA had to pull their table position after the Delta AIP details were released. The APA president told the media they were demanding a 10/5/5 deal, made worse by the fact they were already behind our rates.

To me, those are the most compelling facts supporting the path the Delta MEC chose, which set the bar substantially higher than the entire industry was aiming for. Something about perfection being the enemy of really dang good.

And, according to a very credible source, the NC took until Thursday that week to even bring details of what the Company was offering across the street to the MEC, who had been in session anxiously awaiting a brief since Monday. If, as has been widely supposed, there was no negotiation that week and the MEC took the Company's one and only offer, exactly why did it take 4 days before the MEC got details?

The revisionist nonsense about the 7ER is just that. I don’t remember a single post, comm from the union, or widespread outcry about raising the 7ER pay rates until the “hey, how dare others get a better deal than me” crowd woke up from their minimum balance fantasy AFTER the agreement was made. ALPA made no secret that they were aiming to fix the 320/764/330 pay rates in this agreement and mentioned it several times in various negotiating updates. The 7ER was never mentioned, nor was there outcry resulting from such.

Those who will never be happy will always find things to try and justify their misery. So it goes.

Hotel Kilo

Didn't see this posted here so:

https://aviationweek.com/air-transpo...art-investment

Basically due to slips in delays on deliveries of the Max and 321 (all flavors but especially NEO) we are going to overhaul the majority of the 757 engines in the fleet. I have posted about the delivery issues here before and been totally scoffed at. It's real, it's happening and Delta had to do something. As I've said before the 75/76 are not going anywhere anytime soon here at Ma D

As myself and other guys have said - 'here until it isn't, and until it's at a gate with delta paint, it's just an order.

FangsF15

This. All of this.

Good article. I was completely agreeing with your comments until you included the 767-300's into the mix. The this article is all about the 75.

The 45 76's we have are definitely going away soon, 6 of them next year according to multiple base visit "Network" presentations. FWIW, at the DTW visit, the Network rep said she wanted to accelerate retiring them all, but they can't due to slipping delivery of replacements coupled with increased utilization post-pandemic. IMO, the 767-300 will be gone in the next 6 years or so, barring some massive and unforeseeable change in circumstances. Conversely, the 75's are over a decade newer, and have much more life left in them. As the article states, most of our 75's were delivered right before the line shut down in 2004. I think you are absolutely right that the 75's will continue on for a long while though.