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Old 10-13-2023, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
I bet we have fewer than 45 ERs by then

and far more NEOs, 220s and 330s.

if the ER rate was not worth fixing over the past 23+ years, why is it such a big deal now?
I'll take that bet.
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Old 10-13-2023, 01:26 PM
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Boeing have spent over a decade trying to put new engines on the 777. The Max7 and 10 are continually pushed back. I wouldn’t be confident on anything Boeing until it’s delivered, and even then, as the max showed…

Airbus are going gangbusters with the A321neo.
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Old 10-13-2023, 01:30 PM
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Boeing have spent over a decade trying to put new engines on the 777. The Max7 and 10 are continually pushed back. I wouldn’t be confident on anything Boeing until it’s delivered, and even then, as the max showed…

Airbus are going gangbusters with the A321neo.
Where did we mention the 777?

They are until they are not. Again, until it's at a gate with Delta paint, it's just an order.
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Old 10-13-2023, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Where did we mention the 777?

They are until they are not. Again, until it's at a gate with Delta paint, it's just an order.
you mean like the 40+ that are flying around our system now?

I get the skepticism, but barring something crazy the NEOs are coming. This isn’t a paper airplane or orders in the distant future, this is a plane we already have a few dozen examples of actively flying in DL paint flown by DL pilots delivered in the past 18 months.
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Old 10-13-2023, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
you mean like the 40+ that are flying around our system now?

I get the skepticism, but barring something crazy the NEOs are coming. This isn’t a paper airplane or orders in the distant future, this is a plane we already have a few dozen examples of actively flying in DL paint flown by DL pilots delivered in the past 18 months.
At last count, we have 42 321NEO actively flying, of 155 ordered.
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Old 10-13-2023, 02:16 PM
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At last count, we have 42 321NEO actively flying, of 155 ordered.
And another 70 options.
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Old 10-13-2023, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
Boeing have spent over a decade trying to put new engines on the 777. The Max7 and 10 are continually pushed back. I wouldn’t be confident on anything Boeing until it’s delivered, and even then, as the max showed…

Airbus are going gangbusters with the A321neo.
They got crushed on the A380 however and the A330 NEO is a flop unless something dramatic happens with orders.
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Old 10-13-2023, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They got crushed on the A380 however and the A330 NEO is a flop unless something dramatic happens with orders.
True. A380 mistakes yielded a solid A350 program that’s had a successful 2023. -1000 starting to shift more sales.

321neo is the bread and butter. 5,200+ orders in total. Slightly under the entirely of orders for the Max family.
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Old 10-13-2023, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
I was obviously talking about the whole conversation in my response and not just what I quoted. You’re right I’m happy about the pay rates. There was more to what I said than just that. Like the weekly neo vs 757 route structure arguments as if anything even sticks here with networking. I am lost how I’m the sour grapes of the conversation but this is generally how every neo vs 757 argument ends, so not surprised really.

It’s really not that deep. the post I literally responded to was sour grapes and I’m asking what the JS complained about.
You went after the poster you quoted for something a jump seater said but were just wondering what they complained about? Ok, then I take back the sour grapes. How do you feel about aggressively defensive? Someone somewhere ****ed in your 757 cheerios and now your lashing out against anyone who has posted about 320NEO growth. Fire outside the fort, or save it for someone who’s being an a-hole.
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Old 10-13-2023, 05:29 PM
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I’ll just leave this here.
Delta A321NEO October routes
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