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Leeroy Jenkins is the new 320 rotation planner.

Hotel Kilo

Have you been following the certification? At all?

It's my opinion, nothing more. You don't know me, you've never flown with me. <------ That comment and yours above are both about worth the dust of a termite fart.

From the last few monthly AEs the trend we are seeing is pilots in the seniority range I listed are trending towards the WB positions. Historically that SL percentage has been the buttress of the WB B. I see that migration upticking as the NB schedules continue to get pummeled. See the latest from the FRMT? The company has found another loophole to drive dump trucks thru in our contract. It happens every time. One day you'll finally get it, but you are young and haven't seen enough of it yet, or perhaps still believe management will actually follow the PWA.

Trip makes predictions all the time, usually wrong. So I made one. Not often i do that, but I will maintain that as the NB schedules continue to degrade, especially the 73N as it becomes the new 88, will see movement of the 2000-8000 folks. Yeah we have more NB than WB, however the seniority distribution will see a shift as I have described. NB A continues to go way junior. The senior NB B are there to fly day turns. From what I've seen in the bid backs and wide/reasons reports, unless you are top 10-15 (not percentage) in the NB B you are not seeing any benefits as the rotations continue to be optimized pushing the limits of duty and block.

Whoopsmybad

My trips the month with tons of credit built in say otherwise.

FangsF15

I agree WB B will continue to go (to historic) seniority, especially compared with the aberration that happened during post-Covid era. However, while the "utter degradation of [NB] trips" may be a primary factor for some, I think that's a minority influence. I submit that for the majority who chose WB B, it's more about the solid pay for the excellent WB lifestyle. But it all plays a role, for sure.

I'm in that pool... "So much better"? How? I've done both, and have kept track of days worked and such. In full disclosure, WB B was as a commuter and NB A is living in base. WB B is far less pay, and no fewer days worked. Admittedly, if I was living in base as a WB B, I would probably work a day or maybe 2 less on average (based on my pre-Covid experience). Even then, I'm quite happy where I am as a NB A, thank you very much. The only thing I actually miss about WB life are 1-leg days and the excellent layovers. Not worth it for me, and for many others (not even talking about those who don't do well with the circadian disruption of WB life). Personally, I don't see making a move until I can hold WB A, which I am years from being able to hold as the plug. Even then, I'll have to take a serious look at whether it makes sense for me, my family, and my particular situation.

runinonfumes

for those 33% of us on the bottom of the seniority list, what are the implications of LJ as route planner?

Hotel Kilo

Where did trips with credit come into play? Dude you are all over the place. Go help granny with her suitcase already. PS - the forward lav is dirty, here's some Lysol wipes, get to it man. Good grief, no wonder we are in the situation we are in we don't need management, we've got pilots like you.

Hotel Kilo

I've done both, a bunch of times (furloughs,displacement etc). I find, as do my contemporaries and most of the people I talk to, WB to be a much easier life. WB tempo is nothing like that in the NB fleets. Unless you are area code seniority on the NB side, you are going to work more and be gone longer on NB. I'm talking about the middle of the curve here, I know about the outlier ninjas. My life as WB A is light years better than my friends still hanging on the NB fleets. Many are not moving because they are <2 years from retirement now. If not, I'm certain they would be WB now. Funny many here talk about the sleep issues, but then you'll read several posts where they talk of bidding over to WB A at some point. My question is if the sleep is an issue, why are you even going there? Stay NB A then. So many contradictions it seems. Personally once I got firmly entrenched in the WB world, I never looked back Went WB B to WB A. On 2 diff fleets. I've thoroughly enjoyed my time as both a WB B and then the left seat.

Scooter432

This is my reality as well. I'm leaving WBB to go NBA. I described it in the other thread, but WBB is not as grand as one thinks. It's destroyed my body and I don't feel like I'm working any less. I'm definitely making less than my NBA friends as well.

Gunfighter

Not one for meme culture I take it.

Leeroy Jenkins HD 1080p - YouTube
Fast forward to 1:00 mark if you are impatient.

runinonfumes

😂😂😂😂. I definitely missed that when it first showed up….that’s awesome!!
Thx for enlightening me on the implications to the 320 fleet…