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Old 10-10-2023, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Forgotmyhat
We just had a black swan. Can’t keep having black swans every 5 years. That’s just called a cycle.
Ummm, yes, we can. The attacks in Israel by Hamas. I'm not a poli sci or military guy, but in the past this sort of thing could escalate rapidly. How's the PPB doing today?
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Old 10-10-2023, 04:48 AM
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The world is just one continuous black swan, it's just a matter of how big that swan is and how long it lives.
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Old 10-10-2023, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Also, wasn't there a 777 base in NYC that ended with no 777 departures for a while before they moved it to DTW?

I think that whole thing burned Flight Ops with opening new categories quickly.
Yes.

I believe it was a micro-base that was supporting NRT and TLV for a while before we axed JFK-NRT

Supposedly it was coming back in 2020, too, to support BOM/ICN/TLV

I imagine we would need those three destinations from JFK to be in place before we would ever see the 350 in JFK
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Ummm, yes, we can. The attacks in Israel by Hamas. I'm not a poli sci or military guy, but in the past this sort of thing could escalate rapidly. How's the PPB doing today?
I think his point was that if it’s happening that often, it should no longer be considered a “black swan.”

Kinda like IROPS at the NYC airports. 😂
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Old 10-10-2023, 09:10 AM
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Horrible news for the 73N fleet. The 321NEO has begun to fly Carribean routes. The MAX needs to hurry up and arrive
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Originally Posted by Jaxs170
I believe it was a micro-base that was supporting NRT and TLV for a while before we axed JFK-NRT
Actually, it started out in 2008 as a "micro-base" for the new (back then) 777-LR to do JFK-BOM. That was it. After a few months, Delta pulled that route down to ATL (16 hours over, 18 back) and there was zero flying out of JFK despite the NYC777 category remaining. All trips started/finished out of ATL and there were no short calls. It was a pretty good deal while it lasted. Then they added some NRT and TLV back into JFK before closing the base and moving it to DTW.
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Old 10-10-2023, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Horrible news for the 73N fleet. The 321NEO has begun to fly Carribean routes. The MAX needs to hurry up and arrive
It’s about time. You 737 guys have been coddled long enough. You guys can have FAR in the winter and we will take UVF. We will give you BIL and BIS, in exchange for AUA and SXM. Actually I think the 757 does AUA so we will settle for STT or SKB. 🤣
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Old 10-10-2023, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Horrible news for the 73N fleet. The 321NEO has begun to fly Carribean routes. The MAX needs to hurry up and arrive
This stuff changes monthly. Who cares. Rule #1 is don’t bid airplanes for trips - especially here


Unless it’s a route that psychically can’t be done by anything else. I.e - A350
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Old 10-10-2023, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
It’s about time. You 737 guys have been coddled long enough. You guys can have FAR in the winter and we will take UVF. We will give you BIL and BIS, in exchange for AUA and SXM. Actually I think the 757 does AUA so we will settle for STT or SKB. 🤣
Yea 757 is SXM, AUA and STT. Which STT/SXM are turns and they suck. at least when I’ve done then and see them in my bid packages. So be careful what you wish for…
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
It’s about time. You 737 guys have been coddled long enough. You guys can have FAR in the winter and we will take UVF. We will give you BIL and BIS, in exchange for AUA and SXM. Actually I think the 757 does AUA so we will settle for STT or SKB. 🤣
Haha. I don’t think the 757 will be on AUA for much longer as the 739/MAX and 321CEO/NEO can do the route for significantly less cost. STT will be 757 til the plane retires due to performance requirements
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