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Old 09-27-2022, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
I'm not faulting GH for trying very hard to make a profit, we are a profit making business after all - I just wish they tried more routes rather than falling back on the "route everyone through AMS/CDG/ICN" concept.

What's interesting is GH was all into sending airplanes all over Europe in the 2008-2012 time-frame. He tried almost everywhere! Where's that experimentation?
I agree it’d be great to get that experimental routes again, maybe capacity at our hubs will force them to do just that.
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Old 09-27-2022, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
I'm not faulting GH for trying very hard to make a profit, we are a profit making business after all - I just wish they tried more routes rather than falling back on the "route everyone through AMS/CDG/ICN" concept.

What's interesting is GH was all into sending airplanes all over Europe in the 2008-2012 time-frame. He tried almost everywhere! Where's that experimentation?
He learned from his mistakes.

Mistakes in his his eyes. The yield was stronger with KLM/AF doing the short haul out of europe hubs. He can then concentrate on the high yield of business center to business center. NYC ATL DTW LAX CDG LHR AMS FCO etc.
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GH after the A350-1000 order announcement

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Old 09-27-2022, 11:28 AM
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Delta for the past few years focused on where the money was at, domestic, and grew the operation into the most robust domestic network out of all the US carriers. Now that the domestic mission is complete, we can focus on Int'l. The partnership with JVs over the last few years allowed Delta to create a presence in markets we otherwise couldn't have operated in. Additionally, we have a strong domestic network that will help feed those Int'l routes. As a result on years of careful planning, intelligent capital allocation, and excellent profits (aside from the COVID years) now the enterprise can capitalize on Int'l growth in a sustainable way. The arrival of the A350-1000, which, with a fleet of 20, will end up being a bigger fleet than the 777, is imminent.

It is now time to reaffirm the following predictions:

A350 will continue to have NHs for the foreseeable future

A350 will see Captains in their 30s

The A350-1000, with its 777 like triple axel main gear, will be the most beautiful jet on Delta property.

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I agree good times .. will probably see 14/15 hires in 330/350 A in the next few years.

I now look forward to having people post how 20 additional 350s are a bad thing. 🤣
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Old 09-27-2022, 11:33 AM
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Really hoping the 330 can trend more junior next year on the west coast. I’ll be sitting mid to low 11’s but doubt I’ll get my hands on SEA or SLC(when it’s open)
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Old 09-27-2022, 11:54 AM
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I agree good times .. will probably see 14/15 hires in 330/350 A in the next few years.

I now look forward to having people post how 20 additional 350s are a bad thing. 🤣
Terrible if they don't end up in my base of choice. Or they are replacement for the 777 and not really growth.
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Old 09-27-2022, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer

What's interesting is GH was all into sending airplanes all over Europe in the 2008-2012 time-frame. He tried almost everywhere! Where's that experimentation?
That was all pre-JV.
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Old 09-27-2022, 12:03 PM
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…The arrival of the A350-1000, which, with a fleet of 20, will end up being a bigger fleet than the 777, is imminent.
It already is. We only had 18 777. Plus, our order book already had something like 45 total, not including the 20x -1000’s GH sorta announced. It makes me wonder if they plan to divest the 767-400 in the next 7-10 years as part of a fleet simplification plan.

It is now time to reaffirm the following predictions:

A350 will continue to have NHs for the foreseeable future.
Nope.

​​​​​​​ A350 will see Captains in their 30s
I highly, highly doubt it, at least not for 15-20+ years. And definitely not more than one “unicorn”.

The gladiator meme was funny though 😂😂
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Old 09-27-2022, 12:14 PM
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I've said it before but I would have thought we would have gone for the -8 version because

1) we have almost 0 aircraft in the 150 seat range built in the past 20 years and
2) we have almost 300 A321s as well as 150ish 737-900s in service or on order, with all the ones in service under 10 years old.

I know the biggest version of any airplane theoretically has the lowest CASM, but we have no aircraft between 130 seats and 180 seats that are even close to new, I guess the bean counters in charge of that stuff think that’s the best way forward. 🤷‍♂️
I too think the Max 8 will replace the 717, even though it has a lot more seats that could be empty on those routes, operation costs should be similar.
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Old 09-27-2022, 12:48 PM
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I too think the Max 8 will replace the 717, even though it has a lot more seats that could be empty on those routes, operation costs should be similar.
The least fuel efficient plane will replace the 717. Granted the plane is staying til at least 2030, hard to make predictions this early

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