A350-1000 and other Fleet News
09-28-2023, 08:39 AM
#1082
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 4,812
No, we sold ourselves short on the rates. You swallowed the pablum from DALPA. I'll say it again, you just lived thru one of the best negotiating environments for pilots ever seen. Doubtful you'll ever see that again. Now back to management. So the whole sky miles fiasco, see? They are stepping on rakes, again. RA built the machine you enjoy. EB is running it into the ground. You'll continue to have your pay stolen, they will continue to blatantly violate the contract. I've seen it all before a thousand times over. But you juniors, you know better. 2 years from know your NB schedules will still be horrendous, they'll be shorting you on pay from work you've given them and you'll clap each other on the back proclaiming how the soft pay was such a good deal. Is it a good deal when you have to go and fight for what you are owed?
09-28-2023, 08:44 AM
#1083
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,614
No, we sold ourselves short on the rates. You swallowed the pablum from DALPA. I'll say it again, you just lived thru one of the best negotiating environments for pilots ever seen. Doubtful you'll ever see that again. Now back to management. So the whole sky miles fiasco, see? They are stepping on rakes, again. RA built the machine you enjoy. EB is running it into the ground. You'll continue to have your pay stolen, they will continue to blatantly violate the contract. I've seen it all before a thousand times over. But you juniors, you know better. 2 years from know your NB schedules will still be horrendous, they'll be shorting you on pay from work you've given them and you'll clap each other on the back proclaiming how the soft pay was such a good deal. Is it a good deal when you have to go and fight for what you are owed?
09-28-2023, 08:46 AM
#1084
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,614
09-28-2023, 12:10 PM
#1086
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined APC: Jun 2021
Posts: 2,235
09-28-2023, 01:00 PM
#1087
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Joined APC: Jan 2023
Posts: 1,520
09-28-2023, 01:10 PM
#1088
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Joined APC: Jan 2023
Posts: 1,520
Guess that all depends on WHEN you get paid doesn't it? Let's keep watching the ACE tally grow and grow though. One day you'll be a WB A, and then like me not have to worry about chasing the money they owe you. Since most of your trips are going to not avail themselves to the "soft pay" bins nearly as much as the NB fleets.
09-28-2023, 01:15 PM
#1089
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Left seat of a little plane
Posts: 2,431
Guess that all depends on WHEN you get paid doesn't it? Let's keep watching the ACE tally grow and grow though. One day you'll be a WB A, and then like me not have to worry about chasing the money they owe you. Since most of your trips are going to not avail themselves to the "soft pay" bins nearly as much as the NB fleets.
Nothing in life is perfect, but all the "soft pay" provisions represent serious contractual improvements. I've sat three SC this month. I haven't flown a trip off any of them, so that's three extra hours of pay. What about the 5.15 ADG we've had for awhile now? All the deep ATL-SA trips used to pay the block time only, and that was usually between 19-20 hours. With the adoption of the ADG years ago, every one of those trips now pay 21 hours--every pilot, every trip. According to you that's a "bad" thing?
