JamesBond

You don't know what you would be missing.

Amsterdam sucks.

Wolf424

I fly intl. I’m well aware.

The point I was making is that under our current scope agreements (section 1 and global scope), we can’t simply consolidate to (essentially) domestic only and let JVs fly everything intl which is what the OP said.

I would be nearly impossible under our current agreements to fly to one place anyway. Not enough frequency…did you honestly believe I was advocating for us to have a departure to AMS every 21 minutes?

TED74

With every empty comment you become increasingly irrelevant. I guess this is what the end of a career looks like - sad.

For anyone who hasn’t been there, Amsterdam has plenty to offer. Clearly it’s just one city, though, so if it’s all you did you would be missing out on plenty.

Amsterdam has great food, it’s very walkable, or you can grab a free bike to go as far as you’d like. Museums and history abound. You can be in city center or the countryside…or both separated by only 15 minutes. Hop on reliable, cheap public transpo amd go anywhere you’d like - windmill tour or maybe the beach in under an hour. Everyone speaks English, they’re friendly, and they’re happy to have you there. The women are gorgeous and my hunch is the men are fine too. If you want to hit the grocery store, it’s 3 minutes away. If you don’t want to leave the hotel, there’s food in-house that’s fine. If you have or make friends, there’s a good chance you’ll run in to some for quality catch-up time over a tasty beverage. The rooms are quiet, most often there isn’t much of a wait, the AC always works and you can often turn laundry around same-day. The ride to and from the airport is easy and predictable. Airport security is a cinch.

notEnuf

Except that Delta hasn't been SCOPE compliant ever during my DAL career. What makes us think global scope is different?

Buck Rogers

Factually correct but oh so misleading. Seems like you trying to equate not being scope compliant by 1-2% the same as what wolf said,.....which was "The point I was making is that under our current scope agreements (section 1 and global scope), we can’t simply consolidate to (essentially) domestic only and let JVs fly everything intl which is what the OP said."/

notEnuf

What I'm saying is there are business reasons to ignore SCOPE when and where they deem it financially suitable. The overall erosion of SCOPE and contesting language is a business process to keep us from expanding our (DALPA) reach as the corporation goes global. I don't think we will be domestic only but we could be reduced to a U.S. subsidiary that isn't the majority player. Our 50% global share could become 47.5% with the right arbitrator and arguments. Enforcement has always been our weak link but we can write and sell concepts with the best of them.

lake

You must not be staying in the horrible NH Noord hotel.. Can't believe we have stayed there for as long as we have.

JamesBond

'Inexperience' is the answer to that question.

Planetrain

WHILE scope IS IMPORTANT, IT ISN'T AN ACRONYM. WHY DO SOME INSIST ON CAPITALIZING IT? IT’S AS ABSURD AS USING K’S IN PLACE OF C’S.
/rant

Cranberry

Sometimes
Compliant
Operating
People
(To)
Europe

What about BOBODDY?