Vote of no confidence in management
06-17-2022, 06:13 AM
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No, they don't. You are talking about a group of people who have a company run news network to showboat one another in front of the worker bees. When it comes to the pilots, they don't care and why should they?
1. The metal is moving.
2. The reliability and timeliness is on par with peers.
3. Thousands are lined up to trade anniversaries, kids events, other quality family time and holidays for GS.
4. Hundreds of others have signed up to dump the entirety of raising their kids upon a spouse or other family members so they can brag about being a 2 year A to their flight college classmates at other carriers.
5. We have orders for a lot of WB, that are not quite here yet, and everyone is convinced there is they are coming no matter what.
6. We have only voted no once in 90 years and most of those took the VEOP.
7. We have an MEC chair who spends the first five minutes of a podcast talking about customer service.
No, I don't think management gives two craps... we are managed.
1. The metal is moving.
2. The reliability and timeliness is on par with peers.
3. Thousands are lined up to trade anniversaries, kids events, other quality family time and holidays for GS.
4. Hundreds of others have signed up to dump the entirety of raising their kids upon a spouse or other family members so they can brag about being a 2 year A to their flight college classmates at other carriers.
5. We have orders for a lot of WB, that are not quite here yet, and everyone is convinced there is they are coming no matter what.
6. We have only voted no once in 90 years and most of those took the VEOP.
7. We have an MEC chair who spends the first five minutes of a podcast talking about customer service.
No, I don't think management gives two craps... we are managed.
06-17-2022, 06:30 AM
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As a commuter i was not interested in first upgrade, but if I lived a bit closer to NY I would have considered it. Heck ATL and DTW dropped down to late 2019 hires, plenty of people that live in base there could make great money while also not having too bad of a QOL.
just because a move might put stress on your particular situation does not mean it would affect everyone in the same way.
06-17-2022, 06:35 AM
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Good summary, JustNarced. Current workforce is highly motivated to trip over itself to brag about how much money they can make. This doesn’t reconcile at all with the “inflation is killing us” crowd that’s not especially interested in constantly rearranging their lives to make a few more bucks..but they seem to be the minority. Management knows this, they have the numbers to prove it.
IMHO, the point of the “no confidence” vote was to strengthen confidence in the MEC leadership, nothing more.
“We must do something!”
“This is something!”
“We must do that!”
(No real critique of it per say. RLA really gutted union power in the US a long time ago. Available tools are quite limited. This is one tool. They used it. Now what?)
IMHO, the point of the “no confidence” vote was to strengthen confidence in the MEC leadership, nothing more.
“We must do something!”
“This is something!”
“We must do that!”
(No real critique of it per say. RLA really gutted union power in the US a long time ago. Available tools are quite limited. This is one tool. They used it. Now what?)
06-17-2022, 06:38 AM
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If you want to know what management thinks about all this, watch Succession. It shows that employees and employee issues are simply just "noise" surrounding that chaos of running a multinational corporation. They don't care at all. They are interested in retaining power and managing.
06-17-2022, 07:25 AM
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06-17-2022, 07:35 AM
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06-17-2022, 10:27 AM
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We are struggling to get people to sign up for the picketing events on the 30th.
The strike vote is funny. We as a pilot group are NOWHERE near angry enough to warrant that.
AA, Alaska etc had hundreds of pilots in NYC to picket in the last few months. We had roughly 60.
If you want 99% strike vote, you need pilots to be MAD, and at this point I don't see it.
At AA and Alaska, they are MAD.
06-17-2022, 01:15 PM
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