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Old 04-28-2022, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
All of a sudden a guy who moved his family so he didn't have to commute will now move his family, because, wait for it, he still has to commute. I'm calling Bs
Plausible but doubtful. Maybe the 2 flights required commute was a 6 hour commitment and now he/she/it is an empty nester and the Florida 1 flight commute is an hour and a half commitment.
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
Somehow I always doubt these kind of statements.

We’ve had positive space commuting as part of our commuter policy for a long time now. What’s been stopping you from moving this whole time?
I've did commuting with the "call in honest" policy for years, and it sucked. Prompted a move to base. QOL improved 1000%.

Did commuting with PSC as part of the Covid training churn. It was a game changer, but it's not permanent. (yet).

Plenty of DAL small city destinations that are served by multiple DAL hubs; PSC goes permanent without restriction (!!!) and is in an iron clad, no take backsies contract, the house is going up for sale.

I'd imagine a huge percentage of Florida flight seats will eventually be blocked off for pilots and flight attendants who lock in all their flights the day after the bids come out.

Seniority would be pretty senior (based on current roster) in NYC, and a guaranteed flight from a FL city would make this quite simple.

Just one opinion. If Delta becomes a de facto “home basing” airline, I wouldn’t expect everything else to remain static.
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Old 04-28-2022, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
I've did commuting with the "call in honest" policy for years, and it sucked. Prompted a move to base. QOL improved 1000%.

Did commuting with PSC as part of the Covid training churn. It was a game changer, but it's not permanent. (yet).
What specifically made it a game changer for you? Only needing one flight? Or just being able to book it ahead of time?

Plenty of DAL small city destinations that are served by multiple DAL hubs; PSC goes permanent without restriction (!!!) and is in an iron clad, no take backsies contract, the house is going up for sale.

I'd imagine a huge percentage of Florida flight seats will eventually be blocked off for pilots and flight attendants who lock in all their flights the day after the bids come out.

Seniority would be pretty senior (based on current roster) in NYC, and a guaranteed flight from a FL city would make this quite simple.

Just one opinion. If Delta becomes a de facto “home basing” airline, I wouldn’t expect everything else to remain static.
For some of these reasons I can’t imagine that the company will go for blank-check PSC in perpetuity. I honestly doubt it’ll stay, but if it does, I think it will be in a vastly different form than it is now. The fact that there are little to no restrictions on it right now is mind boggling to me, the company really must have thought the pandemic would be a 5+ year thing.

I imagine that IF they are even willing to entertain PSC, it will have enough restrictions where most will go, “Ehhhhhh, I’ll just stay in base.”

All that being said, the “call in honest” policy is fine, so if PSC goes away I won’t even blink. It’s nice, but not anything I want to fight the company for. And commuting is still commuting… it’s like greenslips, the extra pay is awesome to think about, but you still have to actually go out and do it, which sucks.
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
What specifically made it a game changer for you? Only needing one flight? Or just being able to book it ahead of time?
Not the OP you replied to, but the no backup flight makes it game changing for me. Now my 0900 sign in means I can take the 0600 flight which means I was home the night before to have dinner with fam and put kiddos to bed, instead of having to take the last flight out that night as my primary with the same day 0600 flight as my backup.
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Not the OP you replied to, but the no backup flight makes it game changing for me. Now my 0900 sign in means I can take the 0600 flight which means I was home the night before to have dinner with fam and put kiddos to bed, instead of having to take the last flight out that night as my primary with the same day 0600 flight as my backup.
100%. Get rid of the backup and it solves most of my issues commuting. Can easily be the difference between having to go in the night before or having to go in an extra six hours early versus just showing up at show time.
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Old 04-28-2022, 11:13 AM
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100%. Get rid of the backup and it solves most of my issues commuting. Can easily be the difference between having to go in the night before or having to go in an extra six hours early versus just showing up at show time.
The backup flight is probably the thing Delta wants back the most with the emphasis on reliability.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The backup flight is probably the thing Delta wants back the most with the emphasis on reliability.
I got the impression a lot of commuters do not use a backup, even before psc.
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Old 04-28-2022, 11:57 AM
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I got the impression a lot of commuters do not use a backup, even before psc.
I do t know about a lot. There’s some commute heavy stations it’s almost impossible to get out of.
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
I've did commuting with the "call in honest" policy for years, and it sucked. Prompted a move to base. QOL improved 1000%.

Did commuting with PSC as part of the Covid training churn. It was a game changer, but it's not permanent. (yet).

Plenty of DAL small city destinations that are served by multiple DAL hubs; PSC goes permanent without restriction (!!!) and is in an iron clad, no take backsies contract, the house is going up for sale.

I'd imagine a huge percentage of Florida flight seats will eventually be blocked off for pilots and flight attendants who lock in all their flights the day after the bids come out.

Seniority would be pretty senior (based on current roster) in NYC, and a guaranteed flight from a FL city would make this quite simple.

Just one opinion. If Delta becomes a de facto “home basing” airline, I wouldn’t expect everything else to remain static.
NY going senior? Lol! Sure…

attn: a FL commuter that’s based in NY.
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Old 04-28-2022, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
Somehow I always doubt these kind of statements.

We’ve had positive space commuting as part of our commuter policy for a long time now. What’s been stopping you from moving this whole time?
I know multiple people who moved under PSC and even bid ridiculously low NB- A positions with the hopes PSC would stay. So far it has paid off for them OOBWS ATL.
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