Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
Yesterday, 08:35 PM
#6701
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I would rather be able to reference the PWA to a scheduler since it has the most weight than the SRH. But again, it shouldn’t take a whole other 100+ page document to understand our contract 😂. That’s my opinion though and I know I’m not alone in that. I would rather reference the book than rely on cliff notes for my homework assignment / exam
Giving 10+ examples to explain reroute pay really means they did a poor job explaining how reroute pay works in their lawyer speak
Giving 10+ examples to explain reroute pay really means they did a poor job explaining how reroute pay works in their lawyer speak
Today, 04:52 AM
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Just for those who may not be aware, the SRH is 100% binding on the company, as are the Scheduling Alerts & Negotiators Notepads. If you get a scheduler saying they don’t have to abide by them, calmly ask for a supervisor. And follow up with an FCR to ensure accountability for that scheduler.
While it’s always best to quote the PWA, these other documents are vetted through the company before publication and are absolutely just as binding.
While it’s always best to quote the PWA, these other documents are vetted through the company before publication and are absolutely just as binding.
Today, 07:28 AM
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Just for those who may not be aware, the SRH is 100% binding on the company, as are the Scheduling Alerts & Negotiators Notepads. If you get a scheduler saying they don’t have to abide by them, calmly ask for a supervisor. And follow up with an FCR to ensure accountability for that scheduler.
While it’s always best to quote the PWA, these other documents are vetted through the company before publication and are absolutely just as binding.
While it’s always best to quote the PWA, these other documents are vetted through the company before publication and are absolutely just as binding.
And on that same note, if you see incomplete or incorrect items in the SRH, please submit an STS Inquiry to the Scheduling Committee to bring it to their attention. Working through a pretty major overhaul of the SRH and want to include as much stuff as we possibly can to improve the document.
Today, 09:56 AM
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The contract is not supposed to explain how reroute pay works. The contract is supposed to simply state it. And it does, in 23 L4
The examples are a bonus to make things easier, and my guess is they were specifically crafted during negotiations to make sure both sides had a good idea of what they were agreeing to. Of course, there were some unforeseen situations, which is why we just had an MOU about it.
Its hard to predict every reroute scenario that might come up.
I really don’t think people understand what a “simple” contract would leave us with. What parts would you eliminate? And every single thing we “reword” would now be up to a new interpretation by the company and an arbitrator.
The examples are a bonus to make things easier, and my guess is they were specifically crafted during negotiations to make sure both sides had a good idea of what they were agreeing to. Of course, there were some unforeseen situations, which is why we just had an MOU about it.
Its hard to predict every reroute scenario that might come up.
I really don’t think people understand what a “simple” contract would leave us with. What parts would you eliminate? And every single thing we “reword” would now be up to a new interpretation by the company and an arbitrator.
Today, 11:31 AM
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Today, 11:39 AM
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I saw that for daylight savings time this past weekend the company was assigning people 0900 SC on day 1 on reserve. Since that’s technically 10 hours of rest from midnight. They’re right but petty IMO playing games with the pilot group to get them to sit reserve 1 hour earlier. So we need to reword the contract now to state 1000 on the first day of reserve as the earliest and at least10 hours of rest
Today, 12:42 PM
#6709
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I saw that for daylight savings time this past weekend the company was assigning people 0900 SC on day 1 on reserve. Since that’s technically 10 hours of rest from midnight. They’re right but petty IMO playing games with the pilot group to get them to sit reserve 1 hour earlier. So we need to reword the contract now to state 1000 on the first day of reserve as the earliest and at least10 hours of rest
The wording doesn't need to change for the niche case of daylight saving. And I don't really see it as the company playing games, it's actually pretty black/white. But daylight saving does have a tendancy to throw people off.
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