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Old 10-24-2024, 03:38 AM
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When I'm outside walking 2 ft. away from the jetway already it's way quicker to shut off the air myself. Shockingly, nothing negative, or dangerous ever resulted.

The formal training should say, "Pushing the start air button starts 95 degree "conditioned" air. Pushing the stop air button ceases the flow of conditioned air" There. You've been trained.
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Old 10-24-2024, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat
I'm not sure which side of this argument I'm on, but with this whole "If it doesn't say I can't do it then I can" vs "If it doesn't say I can do it then I can't" thing, it's no wonder Delta's manuals are 8 times larger than anyone else's. They have to cover every conceivable situation and button at the airport just to say whether we're allowed to do something or not.
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Old 10-24-2024, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat
I'm not sure which side of this argument I'm on, but with this whole "If it doesn't say I can't do it then I can" vs "If it doesn't say I can do it then I can't" thing, it's no wonder Delta's manuals are 8 times larger than anyone else's. They have to cover every conceivable situation and button at the airport just to say whether we're allowed to do something or not.
To me it just comes down to common sense. If it were a problem then yes there should a policy.
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Old 10-24-2024, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by myrkridia
To me it just comes down to common sense. If it were a problem then yes there should a policy.
There is a policy it just doesn't serve the employees or the customers. Call ops, wait for the air to be removed, start the APU air at D-10. Just like a few years back when bags were prioritized over ground power on arrival. APU usage went way up because there's no power or air and the pilots are running for the next flight across town. Consequenses of managerial decisions... I just shut up and color in the lines until the next guy gets promoted and his fix is implemented. I'm not empowered enough to solve the problems created by policy and procedure makers so I just help expose the ramifications of thier decisions. "Hold boarding because the cabin is too hot/cold." Living in the southeast in the summer is a choice.
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Old 10-24-2024, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies
Sheesh! It's always interesting hearing how things were back in the day, thanks for the history lesson. It really gives some good perspective and I wish you could go give a 10-15 min talk to the NHs during Indoc.
To add to the above the threat was to transfer the 737's to Comair. The scope everyone says we sold had no protections from the company doing that!
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Old 10-24-2024, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
To add to the above the threat was to transfer the 737's to Comair. The scope everyone says we sold had no protections from the company doing that!
Were you really naive enough to believe that empty threat?

And yes your generation sold scope. We were a turboprop commuter and would have never flown a jet if you guys hadn't allowed it. The sky would have never been darkened with RJs. Hell the CL65 probably wouldn't have existed. But hey that raise on the L1011 was pretty sweet amiright?

Go touch some sails and enjoy your retirement. Pretty sad that you stay here trolling your management centric BS and reinventing history hoping nobody here was around or remembers enough to call you out on it.
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Old 10-24-2024, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Were you really naive enough to believe that empty threat?

And yes your generation sold scope. We were a turboprop commuter and would have never flown a jet if you guys hadn't allowed it. The sky would have never been darkened with RJs. Hell the CL65 probably wouldn't have existed. But hey that raise on the L1011 was pretty sweet amiright?

Go touch some sails and enjoy your retirement. Pretty sad that you stay here trolling your management centric BS and reinventing history hoping nobody here was around or remembers enough to call you out on it.
Weird, we sold something we did not have.
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Old 10-24-2024, 06:43 AM
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You go to a chain, planet fitness for example, and show them your active and fit ID number. They'll sign you up and you'll be a member of planet fitness and you'll get the black card. You'll have access to all their gyms. Also there's not limit to how many memberships you can have. I'm actively a member at Planet, LA fitness, Crunch, Anytime, and some random mom and pop gym I found in a Helena MT layover once.
Thanks for the (old) discussion on this.

Reading Active & Fit’s web site, it seems you’d pay $28/month for the first membership, say Crunch, then $23/month for each other gym you join, like LA Fitness, etc. Am I correct in that? Or, since you can change at any time, are you changing your membership to each new gym/chain and only paying the one $28/month fee?
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Old 10-24-2024, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville

Go touch some sails and enjoy your retirement. Pretty sad that you stay here trolling your management centric BS and reinventing history hoping nobody here was around or remembers enough to call you out on it.
Some of us value Sailing's perspective. Get over it.
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Old 10-24-2024, 07:02 AM
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There is a policy it just doesn't serve the employees or the customers. Call ops, wait for the air to be removed, start the APU air at D-10. Just like a few years back when bags were prioritized over ground power on arrival. APU usage went way up because there's no power or air and the pilots are running for the next flight across town. Consequenses of managerial decisions... I just shut up and color in the lines until the next guy gets promoted and his fix is implemented. I'm not empowered enough to solve the problems created by policy and procedure makers so I just help expose the ramifications of thier decisions. "Hold boarding because the cabin is too hot/cold." Living in the southeast in the summer is a choice.
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